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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I lean towards thinking that the frequency with which males, especially adolescent and young adult males, get themselves and others dead in stupid ways does not indicate a higher level of rationality. There's a reason we use them for soldiers and why they have higher car insurance rates. Not that females can't be nuts, too. They are just less frequently nuts in ways that get themselves taken out of the gene pool.
    We(who is we anyway?) don't "use" young men for soldiers here in the states. It is an all volunteer military. They take it upon themselves to serve and protect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post
    Of course, the pain-in-the-ass in me wants to point out that choosing the term ‘value’ over ‘emotion’ is a personal preference and isn’t really correcting what I said so much as changing the wording to make it more palatable for yourself- because in the studies I’ve read on this topic, more often than not, the word ‘emotion’ is used to convey ‘the affect which happens before the conscious logic, and which influences that logic’- but the non-pain-in-the-ass part of me that just wants everyone to get along is thinking “Sure, ‘value’ works too I guess.”
    Emotions include things like happiness, anger, joy, grief, amusement, etc. They describe how one feels in the moment. Values include things like respect, efficiency, kindness, independence, honesty, etc. They describe things that might be important to someone. There is a big difference. They may be connected in that, for instance, if someone is telling lies about my friend, I might feel anger (emotion) because that violates my value of honesty, and calls on my value of loyalty. I can recognize and set aside the anger, though, to help my friend address the lies in a constructive way.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    We(who is we anyway?) don't "use" young men for soldiers here in the states. It is an all volunteer military. They take it upon themselves to serve and protect.
    Right. We just rely on economic necessity and lack of other opportunities to pressure enough people to join, pulling disproportionately from the lower economic strata.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    We(who is we anyway?) don't "use" young men for soldiers here in the states. It is an all volunteer military. They take it upon themselves to serve and protect.
    My point exactly. How smart is that?
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    Re poll. I wonder how many men there are on this forum vs. women. Serious question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    My point exactly. How smart is that?
    Do you find it irrational to want to defend those you care about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Emotions include things like happiness, anger, joy, grief, amusement, etc. They describe how one feels in the moment. Values include things like respect, efficiency, kindness, independence, honesty, etc. They describe things that might be important to someone. There is a big difference. They may be connected in that, for instance, if someone is telling lies about my friend, I might feel anger (emotion) because that violates my value of honesty, and calls on my value of loyalty. I can recognize and set aside the anger, though, to help my friend address the lies in a constructive way.


    Right. We just rely on economic necessity and lack of other opportunities to pressure enough people to join, pulling disproportionately from the lower economic strata.
    Edit: I don't know of anyone that didn't want to be in the military and joined. I don't think you would get through basic if you didn't want it. Are there less routes if you don't have money? Yeah sure, but there are ways. I didn't apply for a single scholarship and my school was pretty much paid for until I decided it wasn't for me. I then paid my way through massage therapy school working at Mcdonalds. I picked this. So does everyone else I know in the military. If they don't want it they are gone with a few years of service and a boon or two for their troubles. Yeah, seems as terrible as your wording seems to suggest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    Do you find it irrational to want to defend those you care about?
    Nope. That would be rational. I'm talking about serving in the military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Nah, sorry Lark. Wasn't meant like that at all. I just thought it was a good point, but then I realized women don't really do it as well for me, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    Nope. That would be rational. I'm talking about serving in the military.
    I would think an organized defense would work better in that respect. Do you dislike the military? If so why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    I would think an organized defense(a military) would work better in that respect. Do you dislike the military? If so why?
    I don't have a problem with having a military for defense. I think our military is excessive and it is used for purposes that have virtually nothing to do with defense. And I think it's sucky to throw poor people's kids at rich people's problems, which virtually all wars are. And we take terrible care of a lot of our veterans, which I think is deplorable.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
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