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    I once saw a narcissist breastfeed a flamingo back to health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    Narcissists don't see other people as fully human, but more as objects from which to gain their desires or needs. In this way they would almost have to manipulate in order to interact, since they can't identify with other people, have empathy, or a sincere connection. They would manipulate people in the same way they would manipulate an object.
    Basically. And if the object is no longer useful, they might just drop it. Like "oh okay done with you."
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    On Everyday Narcissism; a blog post about narcissism by a psychotherapist blogger I like.

    [ETA] And here's probably the most relevant clip from that link:

    As with most psychological phenomena, I believe it makes sense to talk about narcissism along a spectrum: in other words, the grandiosity and need for admiration characteristic of pathological narcissism form a milder, less dominant part of primary narcissism (Heinz Kohut has a lot to say on this subject, in case you’re interested). To a certain extent, the desire to be noticed, admired and respected by others is a type of narcissism, an everyday narcissism that doesn’t interfere with our ability to notice, admire and respect other people, and to have meaningful relationships with them. Only when that desire eclipses everything else do we enter the territory of pathological narcissism and narcissistic personality disorder.
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    The good ones manipulate themselves.

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