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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Just to put this into perspective: Not long ago you said you probably knew only one sane person; you constantly attribute mental illnesses to people on and off the forum, usually on the basis of no more evidence than already provided in this case; but Valiant, who believes age-old and well-refuted conspiracy theories and obvious more recent lies, who dedicates all his efforts to a hateful cause, and engages in mono-themed discussions with the apparent intent to recruit soldiers for an army in pursuit of a racist war across Europe - he just has a different opinion.

    The only constant here is that you are arguing strange points.
    God I love you Nico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    God I love you Nico.
    So you guys trolling now or what?

    Or would you like to be alone together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    So you guys trolling now or what?

    Or would you like to be alone together?
    First post in the thread and you assume im trolling. I was talking to Nico. Shoo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I'm criticizing cognitive bias.

    You can't take up what I'm saying into consideration at all? That JUST MAYBE you conflate religions too much with extremist groups, rather conveniently?

    It was really freeing for me to learn about how differently the Muslim faith manifests in different countries, when it's divorced from certain archaic cultural ways existing in Central Asian countries that has very little to do with Islam.

    And Buddhism frees many people from their inner suffering and gives them enlightened perspectives; all Buddhists aren't murderers any more than all middle school gym teachers are pederasts.

    Maybe some Buddhists are murderers, but then they aren't actually following Buddhist teaching in the slightest. And being a middle school gym teacher has zero to do with wanting to inappropriately touch or rape adolescents who are not yet sexually mature, but it may be a convenient hide out for some pederasts.

    Do you see what I am saying Victor?
    You are saying I am conflating extremist groups within a religion with the religion itself? Is that right?

    Well if you go and see the documentary out now in theatres called, "Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God", you will find that the cover up was ordered by the Vatican and the Pope. This is not an extremist group, this is the whole church.

    And if you read the Koran and the Hadith and join a Muslim Student Society as I did, you will find that Jihad, violent holy war, is essential to Islam along the inferiority of women and the abuse of children. You will be horrified by the 1930's style anti-semitism that is taken for granted in Islam from Saudi Arabia to Indonesia. And you will be alarmed to discover you are either a dhimmi and a second class citizen, or you are an infidel who can be killed. And you will be alarmed to discover that should you try to leave Islam, you are an apostate who can be legally killed by any good muslim. You will be further alarmed by Taqiyya in the Koran which teaches a good muslim can lie to a non-muslim.

    If you move beyond the Walt Disney view of Buddhism in the West, you will find Buddhists led by Buddhist monks killing Tamils in Sri Lanka, and you only have to turn on you TV to find Buddhists led by Buddhist monks burning and killing and ethnically cleansing Burmese. These are not extremists, these are normal Buddhists in the normal world.

    But they ask us to have faith in Christianity, in Islam and in Buddhism - what do they take us for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    First post in the thread and you assume im trolling. I was talking to Nico. Shoo.
    Yes, I presume you're trolling because your first post in the thread is in direct response to Nico saying something about me which is completely off topic.

    And your tone in this post indicates further trolling.

    I also know you both hang out in Vent.

    Try harder next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Yes, I presume you're trolling because your first post in the thread is in direct response to Nico saying something about me which is completely off topic.

    And your tone in this post indicates further trolling.

    I also know you both hang out in Vent.

    Try harder next time.
    Derp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    Derp.
    I see that you have many meaningful things to contribute to this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I see that you have many meaningful things to contribute to this thread.
    I am tying you up from further postings. Doing my part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    You are saying I am conflating extremist groups within a religion with the religion itself? Is that right?

    Well if you go and see the documentary out now in theatres called, "Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God", you will find that the cover up was ordered by the Vatican and the Pope. This is not an extremist group, this is the whole church.

    And if you read the Koran and the Hadith and join a Muslim Student Society as I did, you will find that Jihad, violent holy war, is essential to Islam along the inferiority of women and the abuse of children. You will be horrified by the 1930's style anti-semitism that is taken for granted in Islam from Saudi Arabia to Indonesia. And you will be alarmed to discover you are either a dhimmi and a second class citizen, or you are an infidel who can be killed. And you will be alarmed to discover that should you try to leave Islam, you are an apostate who can be legally killed by any good muslim. You will be further alarmed by Taqiyya in the Koran which teaches a good muslim can lie to a non-muslim.

    If you move beyond the Walt Disney view of Buddhism in the West, you will find Buddhists led by Buddhist monks killing Tamils in Sri Lanka, and you only have to turn on you TV to find Buddhists led by Buddhist monks burning and killing and ethnically cleansing Burmese. These are not extremists, these are normal Buddhists in the normal world.

    But they ask us to have faith in Christianity, in Islam and in Buddhism - what do they take us for?
    Because Americans have never done horrible things? Do you know about Japanese internment camps in the U.S. during WWII? How about the fact that Guantanamo Bay exists? What about the Civil War? Why are prisons predominantly filled with African American males?

    Victor why did people in the oh-so-awesome Roman empire molest children?

    People do heinous things. Yes, some forms of thought are superior at creating peace and human rights than others, but funnily enough, those forms of thought are often based in Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism as well as Western respect for rights of the individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Victor why did people in the oh-so-awesome Roman empire molest children?
    Rome, both the Republic and the Empire, were based on institutional slavery.

    So a Roman could legally kill their own slaves, or legally torture their own slaves, or legally break up slave families, or legally rape their own slaves, men, women and children, and they could legally work their slaves to death.

    Jesus lived under the Roman Slave Empire and said not a word against institutional slavery. And Christianity supported institutional slavery right up to 1833 when the House of Commons abolished institutional slavery for the first time in history and sent the Royal Navy out into the Atlantic with orders to sink American slave ships.

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