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    Insults and the Belonging of the Worthless

    Insults are important. And their importance is emphasized here because they persist even though they are against the rules we all agree to abide by.

    So what is an insult? An insult is like spitting in someone's face. It is showing our victim is worthless.

    And we show our victim is worthless because we want to belong, we want to them to be like us. We want them to be worthless like us. So we insult them in order to belong.

    This behavior is common in gangs, were we all feel worthless together. And surprisingly, and interestingly, this behavior is common in groups of non-commissioned soldiers. Who would have guessed these armed and trained men feel so worthless together?

    There are many here who think insults are fun, but they have a far more serious purpose. And the purpose is not to make the victim feel worthless. It is not to say I am worthless. No, the real purpose of insults is to make us belong.

    And the price for belonging is being worthless.

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    Did someone insult you again? Or did you perceive an insult again?
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    This is an interesting idea which hadn't occurred to me before, @Victor. I'll have to think on it some more. It presents an interesting dichotomy because externally the insult is rejection, it pushes the person away, but internally it does project one's own worthlessness and more closely joins the two together.

    What has occurred to me is that when someone instills a negative feeling in another person, by nature they are often infusing that person with the negative feelings which are a part of their own self. I have learned alot about other people based on how they make me feel. It is something akin to a forced empathy. I suspect that people who hurt have a strong desire to be understood and so they role play the part of the oppressor they have faced and make the other person the victim they have been.
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    Dude your reasoning is weird. That's not an insulte BTW, just an observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    What has occurred to me is that when someone instills a negative feeling in another person, by nature they are often infusing that person with the negative feelings which are a part of their own self. I have learned alot about other people based on how they make me feel. It is something akin to a forced empathy. I suspect that people who hurt have a strong desire to be understood and so they role play the part of the oppressor they have faced and make the other person the victim they have been.
    Thanks for that. It's an interesting point. So it's almost like a compensation measure, rather than outright assault; it is meant to create some feeling of connection, even if it's not even close to the best form of connection. It is the only form of connection they feel is left remaining to them.
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    In the same way that a labor or skill is a means to show other people you are superior in some aspect, many insults are an effort to lower someone you believe is superior then yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy22 View Post
    In the same way that a labor or skill is a means to show other people you are superior in some aspect,
    Since when? First I've heard of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    It is the only form of connection they feel is left remaining to them.
    Your face is smelly >
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Get some new material.

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    A Street Gang, a Platoon and Central

    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Did someone insult you again? Or did you perceive an insult again?
    On the other hand, we can't understand Typology Central from the individual point of view because the individual is the content of Central. To understand Central we need to approach it on its own terms.

    And in its own terms Central is an etribe, an electonic tribe, so we can understand Central in terms of its tribal or group dynamic.

    So we compare Central with the dynamics of other groups and we are surprised to find Central has the same group dynamic as a street gang or a platoon.

    Who would have guessed?

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