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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    This is an interesting idea which hadn't occurred to me before, @Victor. I'll have to think on it some more. It presents an interesting dichotomy because externally the insult is rejection, it pushes the person away, but internally it does project one's own worthlessness and more closely joins the two together.

    What has occurred to me is that when someone instills a negative feeling in another person, by nature they are often infusing that person with the negative feelings which are a part of their own self. I have learned alot about other people based on how they make me feel. It is something akin to a forced empathy. I suspect that people who hurt have a strong desire to be understood and so they role play the part of the oppressor they have faced and make the other person the victim they have been.
    Yes, it is an interesting dichotomy. And it is an interesting dichotomy because it is a negative feedback loop where both sides of the dichotomy inhibit one another.

    And we know that negative feedback loops give remarkable stability, and here the negative feedback loop gives remarkable stability to a group that, on first blush, looks as though it would fly apart.

    So a street gang needs a negative feedback loop to keep the gang together so that the individuals feel they belong.

    And a platoon under the stress of battle might fly apart if it wasn't for a negative feedback loop that keeps them together and gives them a sense of belonging. Indeed the sense of belonging in a platoon is so strong the members will sacrifice their lives for one another.

    And so on Central: here we are electronically connected all over the world, in different cultures, at different stages of life, primed it would seem to fly apart, except for our negative feedback loop that gives us remarkable stability over time and space and such a sense of belonging that we find it hard to leave.

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    Once initiated it is difficult to leave a street gang, and indeed we may be beaten up or worse if we try to leave.

    And we all know the only way to leave the mafia is feet first.

    And anyone who tries to leave their platoon will be charged with desertion, a criminal offence.

    So it is no wonder we find it so hard to leave Typology Central, for our social dynamic is the same as a street gang, the mafia and a platoon.

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    What passive-aggressive fresh hell is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    What passive-aggressive fresh hell is this?
    Let your mind run free for a while, dear Silkroad, put aside your accusations of passive aggression, and imagine the social dynamic of Central, a street gang, the mafia and a platoon are the same. Doesn't this tickle your fancy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Let your mind run free for a while, dear Silkroad, put aside your accusations of passive aggression, and imagine the social dynamic of Central, a street gang, the mafia and a platoon are the same. Doesn't this tickle your fancy?
    It's not all that interesting.

    I just don't understand why you stick around here. I really don't. Can you tell us why? With a minimum of rhetoric?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    It's not all that interesting.

    I just don't understand why you stick around here. I really don't. Can you tell us why? With a minimum of rhetoric?
    I can see Silkroad you don't like me and would like me to leave, so thank God I am an independent, creative adult and not dependent on your feelings or opinion.

    So perhaps you might like to do yourself a favour and put me on Ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I can see Silkroad you don't like me and would like me to leave, so thank God I am an independent, creative adult and not dependent on your feelings or opinion.

    So perhaps you might like to do yourself a favour and put me on Ignore.
    No, I don't particularly like you, but that wasn't what I was asking. I don't understand why you stick around because you seem to hate MBTI and dislike the forum. So why stay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Insults are important. And their importance is emphasized here because they persist even though they are against the rules we all agree to abide by.

    So what is an insult? An insult is like spitting in someone's face. It is showing our victim is worthless.

    And we show our victim is worthless because we want to belong, we want to them to be like us. We want them to be worthless like us. So we insult them in order to belong.

    This behavior is common in gangs, were we all feel worthless together. And surprisingly, and interestingly, this behavior is common in groups of non-commissioned soldiers. Who would have guessed these armed and trained men feel so worthless together?

    There are many here who think insults are fun, but they have a far more serious purpose. And the purpose is not to make the victim feel worthless. It is not to say I am worthless. No, the real purpose of insults is to make us belong.

    And the price for belonging is being worthless.
    This is quite insightful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    No, I don't particularly like you, but that wasn't what I was asking. I don't understand why you stick around because you seem to hate MBTI and dislike the forum. So why stay?
    Do you think I am worthless or do you think you are worthless? And this is why we both belong to Central?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Do you think I am worthless or do you think you are worthless? And this is why we both belong to Central.
    That's really your answer? THis is what I mean about rhetoric.

    I can tell you why I come here. Interest in MBTI and psychology. People I like. Habit. Of course, you may wish to tell me it's for other reasons. But I'm fairly sure it's not because I think I am worthless or because I think Victor is worthless.

    So are you saying that you're still here because you think you're worthless? Or because you think everyone else on the forum is worthless?

    Why spend so much time on something you seem to dislike so much? Are you trying to convert us away from MBTI? Or what?
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