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    I've been wondering for a bit if there really is such a thing as a high energy person or, I suppose the opposite would be a low energy person... is it a personal characteristic or is it a reaction to life circumstances or a bit of both?
    I think both are relevant.

    However, I think the primary determinant is an inherent trait of people; yet anyone's environment can energize them or demotivate them depending on the person/environment combo.

    From what I've seen, people who are engaging in activities that are reinforcing of their core strengths are usually energized as hell, because whatever it is they are doing is re-inforcing, it is a source of positive energy flow, because they are doing something well, and likely being rewarded for it, either via money, recognition, achievement of something they believe in, etc.

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    I keep getting described as high energy by people...
    Big surprise!

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    I'm comfortable on the move, making things happen or making sure that they flow efficiently... described a few times as someone who, even when still, appears to have a lot of energy waiting under the surface... waiting to jump into action for some reason.
    I identify with this statement alot; I am very similar.
    I like being productive.
    I like being able to have an effect on my environment.
    For some reason it is extremely awesome and cool and desirable to me to be able to premeditate a change in my environment, predict what steps need to be taken accomplish the transform, test out my theory IRL, and if I'm able to pull it off - for some reason it's just fun as hell. For lack of a better term, I "use my powers for good" - I don't try to make freaky bad shit happen.

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    Except for when on a daily drinking schedule or when seriously depressed I've ALWAYS been that way...
    These two things have gotten in the way of my productivity and zeal for life a time or two in my day also.
    When things got really bad for whatever reason, and I was younger, going batshit wild seemed like a great way to neutralize the pain, and later in life (much later, actually) I experienced my first bout of depression.
    Luckily, I snap out of depression fairly quickly, in fact freakishly quickly in some cases, but I believe it is because I am able to look myself in the face and be as candid and honest as I am with others about what is fucked up in my life and what I need to do to fix it. Then it's just a matter of going through the steps to start digging my up to my usual upbeat positivity. But yes, I've had some dark nasty moments too, and they suck.

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    a very active child and teenager who was always up to something. To be any other way is somehow kind of incomprehensible to me...


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    I realize that not everyone is the same way or it wouldn't be something that is often commented on and a lot of people seem rather content to sit still and just relax.
    Agreed.

    From what I can tell, (1) some people are OK with their environment as it is and doing what they must without mixing up a whole lot else, which there is nothing wrong with IMHO, (2) there are some folks who are for one reason or another truly apathetic and kind of zoned out/disconnected from what I can tell, but they are by no means a majority so far as folks I have met, (3) others still might simply have a high threshold for engaging in things and thus kind of on autopilot unless compelled to react otherwise - some people are simply consumed by what is going on in their lives, whether they appear busy or not - I totally get that, (4) at any given point in time there are folks who are depressed and thus less active than they would be otherwise - been there done that, and (5) There's the busy folks like us.

    Thank goodness there are so many different types of people, likfe would be boring otherwise.

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    Is this a difference in physiology?
    Extreme definitions here, disclaimer - I'm not a doctor, these just seem like obvious physiological states that would result in a person being "busier" than average:
    ADHD = Yes
    Hypomanic/Manic states = Yes
    Overproductive adrenal glands = Yes
    Excessive neurotic energy = Yes
    Massive hormonal fluctation = Yes

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    in mental makeup?
    IMHO, yes.

    Assertive types = Yes
    People with Natural Leadership Skills = Yes
    People dedicated to a cause = Yes
    People massively in love = Hell Yes
    People high on life = Yes

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    in life circumstances?
    Absolutely.

    Factors that would increase the "busy-ness" of a person, IMO, include:

    Wealthy = has time and resources to be very busy doing whatever they want, when they want
    Short on time in a place they love = going to do as much as possible before leaving
    New to an area and thrilled about it = busy exploring the wonders of their new environment
    Just hatched out of a bad, stressful phase of life and making up for lost time = Yes

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    is there such a thing as a high energy or, conversely, a low energy person?
    In terms of people being on a continuum of having very little energy vs. a whole lot of energy = Yes, I think so, but I have no idea what the distribution looks like at either polarity...

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    what are the causes?
    Like all things human, I believe: GENOTYPE + ENVIRONMENT = PHENOTYPE

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    I'd really like some input from people on either side of the coin here in order to understand things a bit better if possible since it's kind of an awkward question to ask people in real life
    I hope my comments above are useful to you in some way.



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    I'm an energy chameleon. It just matches that of my surroundings... Typically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    What do you mean by "judging"?

    Method 1:
    Dominant judgers - ESTJ, ENTJ, INFP, ISFP, INTP, ISTP, EFSJ, ENFJ. (Fi, Ti, Te, Fe)
    Dominant perceivers - ESTP, ENTP, ENFP, ESFP, INFJ, INTJ, ISTJ, ISFJ (Se, Ne, Ni, Si)

    Method 2:
    Judgers = type ends in J
    Perceivers - type ends in P


    Either way, I don't quite see the categorization because
    - STPs tend to be pretty action oriented - especially ESTPs
    - TJs are as well
    - FPs - not so much however ENFPs can be very much so
    - ENTPs can be very high energy
    - ISFXs would be less so

    So, it's all over the map
    Method 2. This thread is talking about energy put into the external world. I can put a lot of energy into pure (Ti) thinking.

    Go-getters like to work. So I'm not talking about energy that goes to nonconstructive purposes, like partying.

    As for ENTPs, "ENTPs are less interested in developing plans of actions or making decisions than they are in generating possibilities and ideas. Following through on the implementation of an idea is usually a chore to the ENTP."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Method 2. This thread is talking about energy put into the external world. I can put a lot of energy into pure (Ti) thinking.

    Go-getters like to work. So I'm not talking about energy that goes to nonconstructive purposes, like partying.

    As for ENTPs, "ENTPs are less interested in developing plans of actions or making decisions than they are in generating possibilities and ideas. Following through on the implementation of an idea is usually a chore to the ENTP."
    I dont know. I have seen some very high energy and driven ESTPs. I've seen some very high performing and driven INTPs. I've also seem some INTPs that can't organize their way out of a paper bag. There are IXTJs that seem to think too narrowly on their own world which effects the impact they can have (like a racehorse with blinders).

    One of the biggest go getters I know is an ENFP. Brilliant and a true dynamo. Takes initiative and runs with stuff. Organizes and inspires people. Gets stuff done.

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    I'm pretty low-energy as far as physical activity. Similar to what @cafe said. I'm prone to getting tired in the presence of strong extraverts. There are times when I get antsy and will spend it up in an explosion of activity with someone else. This may include discussions with people. Talk, talk, talk and then all of a sudden, I'm painfully drained and will abruptly disengage (drives my roommate crazy).

    Intense and driven mentally. I wish I could channel some of my mental energy into my tired body.

    I have two sisters that are very high energy...Te and Se-doms. They amaze me and I've always been really envious of it. It took me a long time to realize that my lack of the same type of energy wasn't a personal flaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    I'm an energy chameleon. It just matches that of my surroundings... Typically.
    I relate to this a bit too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I dont know. I have seen some very high energy and driven ESTPs. I've seen some very high performing and driven INTPs. I've also seem some INTPs that can't organize their way out of a paper bag. There are IXTJs that seem to think too narrowly on their own world which effects the impact they can have (like a racehorse with blinders).

    One of the biggest go getters I know is an ENFP. Brilliant and a true dynamo. Takes initiative and runs with stuff. Organizes and inspires people. Gets stuff done.
    An organizer is a J type by method 2. But focusing on the EXTP types for the moment, I find that they are manipulative. A good fictional example is Tom Sawyer, who convinced some kids that white-washing fences is great fun, and in that way he got out of having to do the chore himself.

    J people who are depressed go into a low-energy state. So when talking about individuals, and not types, there are other psychological factors to account for.
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    While there's a physical component to this I do think its psychological too, motivation is totally determined by psychological factors.

    Motivation is what I am understanding as high energy here, not simply hyperactivity, am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    While there's a physical component to this I do think its psychological too, motivation is totally determined by psychological factors.

    Motivation is what I am understanding as high energy here, not simply hyperactivity, am I right?
    Yes, ADHD people can be either introverts or extraverts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Yes, ADHD people can be either introverts or extraverts.
    Yes but are we discussing motivation or hyperactivity when we are talking about energy? I'm just trying to define what we're discussing.

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