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    Default do you like change?

    Probably already a thread about this, but so what deal with it.

    so what do you think about change?

    me? I hate it my first thought is maybe i should kill myself so i don't have to deal with the change.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    yeah, i feel you.

    i feel different about different types of change perhaps....

    the worst is having to reorient socially, in a context where you can't be yourself anyway. the horror of re-programming yourself into something you don't care about, taking in their rules and shit. pure terror.

    the most essential dichotomy is probably between change that comes from within and change that comes at you from the outside.

    i like change from within. beginning with my self changing (all by itself, growth), but also me changing my visions: toys, computer set-up, artwork, blog design, etc, although, maybe I prefer stages of perceived perfection of such things, to having to work on them ... , depends .. i definitely enjoy something that just works the way it is

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    Probably the biggest change I ever encountered was when I shipped off to Marine Corps boot camp at age 18. I had no idea what to expect, and in fact it was pretty much unlike anything I had ever encountered previously.

    They were doing the whole boot camp thing: Shaving people’s heads, drill instructors yelling at everyone, us shuffling through lines while they issued our gear to us, etc. I wasn’t worried by any of it; there were 100 of us in the platoon going through it all together, and I figured I could hold up as well as anyone.

    The main thing was just not to freak out with all the hyperactivity and yelling and running around and unfamiliarity of it all. So basically I just shut down and shuffled through those first couple days like a zombie. I just sat in the back of my brain and watched it all like it was through a window or on TV, and waited for night to come so I could turn off the TV and crash for the night.

    And in fact it was kind of fun. It was an interesting TV show, when I shut down my circuits enough and just zombied through it. Then, after a couple days, I got my bearings and re-engaged with the people and enviroment around me.

    And that’s kind of been my model for big changes later in life: Just kind of shut down, shuffle through the first day or so like a zombie and go through the steps mechanically, watch the TV show in front of my eyes with vague curiosity, and then re-engage when I get my bearings.

    Good luck, prpl. I'm sure you'll enjoy your upcoming adventure, once you get past that first day or two.

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    change can be scary, but in the end its good.
    "Where wisdom reigns, there is no conflict between thinking and feeling."
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    Probably already a thread about this, but so what deal with it.

    so what do you think about change?

    me? I hate it my first thought is maybe i should kill myself so i don't have to deal with the change.
    Killing yourself is always a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I'm pretty life affirming and wouldnt consider that ever as an option.

    Anyway, so far as change goes, its got a pretty pivotal point in my own political, social and philosophical views so it is important. I think some change should be resisted, some should be accepted and even supported. What is important is that it is change for the better and I do recognise that whether its an individual or an entire social system that there are things which are in play constantly, they are almost human perrenials:-

    1 - A familiar but bad situation is often preferable to an unfamiliar, untested or new situation. It is why, for instance, that the victims of domestic violence prefer to remain in that situation as contemplate the alternatives. Or the alcoholic or junky will return to their addictions or relapse, particularly if being an addict has been integrated into their personality and been who and what they are for long enough.

    2 - Rapid, pell, nell change, inorganic change in response to or driven by external intervention, is not likely to be successful or sustainable in the long term if it is not accompanied by an organic change within the individual or system which is the target of change.

    3 - The benefits of change are almost always overestimated, this is probably the greatest reason for recidivism in individuals making a bid for change which I have encountered, I think perhaps that this is a major factor in change being reversed on the societal level too.

    On the individual level I've encountered quite fantastical thinking, most of the time what is being aimed at is not fantastical, for instance in recovery from depressive illness or addiction it is often about restoring or achieving "ordinary misery" in the place of addiction/depression and its consequences, instead I hear people tell me, perhaps its because they need it as a motivational spring, that with change they will achieve things which is is unlikely that someone without either addiction or depression, and with other advantages, could not achieve in any case.

    On the societal level I see the same thing happen, this or that reform or adjustment or change being campaigned for with ill defined or fantastical expectations and hopes, this all by itself can, especially if those expecations are confounded give rise to other and greater resistance to change attempts in the future.

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    At first we couldn't even change our own nappies.

    And we weren't even able to modulate (change) our own emotions.

    So we were dependent on our parents to change our nappies and modulate our emotions.

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    People who have aspergers like me don't respond well to change and especially in social environments.

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    I like change but I don't like urgency for it.

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    I hate change, until I get used to it.
    Take the weakest thing in you
    And then beat the bastards with it
    And always hold on when you get love
    So you can let go when you give it

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    The only constant is change.

    I don't particularly like nor dislike it.

    Some times I'm startled or annoyed by a specific change, but over all change is what runs everything. It wouldn't make sense for me to dislike it.

    The talk about 'change' is what I dislike. Especially in politics. Talk is cheap especially when they don't know what they are talking about.

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