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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Only tied at bocci ball. Boo hiss.

    Fia - You are pretty much right and we don't want to think about these things. I like those fast cars and also french fries. I will say this - I have never understood how people isolate themselves from their families over old grudges or other similar things.
    I realize that I was taking the negative spin on society, which is one layer of what we are dealing with in our lives now.

    I'm also pretty excited about the advances in technology which are making life better. The access to information via the internet is so meaningful that it would be hard for me to go back to a time without it. We have access to an almost unlimited library from our homes. This could make people more intelligent who use it as a tool. Education is being revolutionized by the new tools in ways far superior to the old classroom lecture format.

    It is also possible that the social networking sites are a step towards achieving more social cohesion in our world village. It is true that the connections are not as deep as a good friend down the street, but for someone like me (and for people I know with Aspbergers and other socially limiting issues), it provides a way to connect. I mostly enjoy FB because I can click "like" on projects of fellow musicians, some very accomplished, and establish a positive reputation. I can also reconnect with people from all the places I've lived. I would never be able to think of a pretense to contact them outside of these networks.

    I will have to confess that I actually don't know what people mean by "attention whoring", or why it is upsetting. When I see people post accomplishments, I especially enjoy reading about those. The only thing I personally dislike on FB is when those weird little soundbite memes (pictures involving jokes, political comments, kittens, or inspirational comments) are all that come up in the feed with some repeated many times. I think those are silly and I'd rather hear what people are doing in their lives - whether it is the laundry or recording an album. Either way it helps me to get to know people better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    I will have to confess that I actually don't know what people mean by "attention whoring", or why it is upsetting. When I see people post accomplishments, I especially enjoy reading about those. The only thing I personally dislike on FB is when those weird little soundbite memes (pictures involving jokes, political comments, kittens, or inspirational comments) are all that come up in the feed with some repeated many times. I think those are silly and I'd rather hear what people are doing in their lives - whether it is the laundry or recording an album. Either way it helps me to get to know people better.
    I have to confess that I'm responsible for that, moving the memes, I know that they bug the hell out of one IT professional I know who says that the web just generates these and they become traffic which over load websites and are like human generated virus.

    I read some more interesting takes on them from an IT guru lately in a book entitled you are not a gadget or something like that, I sort of felt it regurgitated a lot of earlier ideas from other thinkers but they made the point that the internet has provided more means of expression than ever before but highlighted the fact that very few people have anything to say and that as a result people either circulate other peoples ideas because its easy or engage in mimicry.

    There's just some of those things make me laugh or think and I share them because I hope others will have the same experience I did seeing them. Its become much more a feature of facebook now, infact I'd have said in the last three months than I've known it to be with people creating profiles which are just about a single issue or topic, almost like a blog or fan page.

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    Re: the OP: I think that all of the things you listed have always been going on and are part of human nature, it's just that now a larger amount of people are privy to them.

    Analogy: Nudists don't think they are over-exposing themselves, but non-nudists would think that they are.

    ETA: Also, culture and society have changed in ways that have cut off certain outlets for communicating and replaced them with others. I think @fia said it better than I am (people trying to connect socially).
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    Blogs are the same crap even on this site I notice people just write countless pages about themselves and their day and list every single detail, who really cares?. Where does this desire come from? it looks like the person is talking to themselves rather than to other people like a personal diary that has been exposed to the public.

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    Actually now that I think more of it, it might have something to do with existential crisis.

    So it's kind of like wanting to make connections but more about why people need the connections.

    Frankly I think many people in modern society are just too busy to make anything but the most superficial of connections. This seems like a post rat race side effect.

    I think another post rat race side effect is maybe a subconscious need to show that one does have a life. I could see from advertising not too long ago that society was being geared around 'always being on the go and not having time for yourself' and we're starting to realize that this isn't necessarily a good thing. It leads to burnout and people wondering why they are even alive at all, and nothing seems to have any purpose. So now I think we are seeing overcompensation for this tendency, not just among post rat race individuals but also in the way these individuals effect others socially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Blogs are the same crap even on this site I notice people just write countless pages about themselves and their day and list every single detail, who really cares?. Where does this desire come from? it looks like the person is talking to themselves rather than to other people like a personal diary that has been exposed to the public.
    I'd rather hear something about someones day than shares though. Endless shares get old fast.

    I think blogs are talking to yourself for some people. It was that way for me at times when I kept a blog on here. Helped me work through thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Blogs are the same crap even on this site I notice people just write countless pages about themselves and their day and list every single detail, who really cares?. Where does this desire come from? it looks like the person is talking to themselves rather than to other people like a personal diary that has been exposed to the public.
    I care about the half dozen ones I read. I'm glad that people post them. They're usually pretty interesting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Actually now that I think more of it, it might have something to do with existential crisis.

    So it's kind of like wanting to make connections but more about why people need the connections.

    Frankly I think many people in modern society are just too busy to make anything but the most superficial of connections. This seems like a post rat race side effect.

    I think another post rat race side effect is maybe a subconscious need to show that one does have a life. I could see from advertising not too long ago that society was being geared around 'always being on the go and not having time for yourself' and we're starting to realize that this isn't necessarily a good thing. It leads to burnout and people wondering why they are even alive at all, and nothing seems to have any purpose. So now I think we are seeing overcompensation for this tendency, not just among post rat race individuals but also in the way these individuals effect others socially.
    I agree with this, I think that twitter is well named because it is people twittering away and until celebrities and people like that took it up there was not very much interesting in it and I know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I'd rather here something about someones day than shares though. Endless shares get old fast.

    I think blogs are talking to yourself for some people. It was that way for me at times when I kept a blog on here. Helped me work through thoughts.
    I think so.

    Although I wonder about the complaint, I've visited other forums were one or two lurkers who seem to be there all the time, I mean literally, log on in the morning they're there, log on in the even, yup, there, log on three a.m., they're there and they respond to new threads by anyone with a complaint that whoever it is has to share everything or that the threads are pointless.

    That's really strange, these are people who arent moderaters either, I mean I could almost understand if it is someone who is complaining that somone is making work for them but that's not the case. It seems odd because those individuals are obviously putting in a lot of screen time, without any post in the first place they would have had no opportunity to post themselves, they could complain about others seeking attention but they are giving their attention to it and it seems to give them some satisfaction if they can confirm that their posts are being read or cause annoyance in the original poster.

    Maybe its two sorts of compulsive behaviour but I'm not sure. It is a unique online behaviour too because I cant think of anyone going to a focus group in person and complaining that they've been asked to give an opinion or complaining that another has given an opinion before them.

    I've got concerns about technology influencing public mood or causing individual crisis or encouraging predators and jeopardising vulnerable people, social network sites can be part of that but mobiles with cameras and the liker are as much a problem, also about the culture shifts taking place in which people will volunteer information they'd be suspiscious of governments or corporations gathering in the past. Although those are different things to what's being discussed I think, which sounds a bit more like some kind of jealousy or envy or toxic introversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Blogs are the same crap even on this site I notice people just write countless pages about themselves and their day and list every single detail, who really cares?. Where does this desire come from? it looks like the person is talking to themselves rather than to other people like a personal diary that has been exposed to the public.
    so i don't go postal and kill everyone i know. it's not about people caring
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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