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    Haha I know right!!

    Things like that happen more often when I've consumed much caffeine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    I feel like lately I've been thrust more and more towards the conclusion that there's something fundamentally pathological about FB.

    What I mean is, it encourages a kind of fucked up identity projection that allows one to objectify themselves. Something about that encourages delusional and odd attention seeking behaviors, and I really do think that rather than being an extension of people's real need for attention, social networks kind of create that need.
    I think maybe with younger people, I'm conscious that being part of a generation which grew up before all these things, FB and even mobile phones, definitely before phones with built in cameras its entirely different to someone growing up now when these things all have a very different significance.

    I've one mate at least who doesnt have an FB account and flat out refuses to create one, he's "appeared" on FB in photos his wife has posted and said that occasionally he has used her account to check updates from mutual friends but in the main he takes nothing to do with it, either visiting it to see others updates or thinking about sharing something there. Its just a none starter and he feels no need. That was me a couple of years ago before I became a regular user and I just have it on in the background now when I log on I generally have a couple of windows open, forums, cracked.com, news sites, blogs and facebook.

    There are things which concern me, it can lead people into unhealthy behaviour, there's excessive self-disclosure, particularly without privacy settings and I've seen the information pages steadily expand from what they originally were, sparing in detail, to census like in quality and because there's no note of compulsion or anything people volunteer information they'd protest at the government or anyone else collecting. This is something that so called "libertarian paternalists" of the Nudge school of thought have written about and profiled.

    It can go to extremes were people jeopardise their work, their families, their property, posting opinions or content which appears to contravene corporate policy, I've known people to get into problems for posting while at work (even if its from a mobile while taking a crap), a lot of people dont think about posting holiday arrangements or checking in locations abroad they are flagging that their homes may be empty and open for burgulary. Stuff like that and none of it comes with a manual, the internet hasnt got a manual, a lot of the under users take their que from others.

    There's other stuff I've read about the tech involved playing into the hands of what is called self generated indecent images of children (SGIIC) and how easily these images can fall into the hands of predators or be used in cyber bullying of pretty serious sorts but its real depressing stuff and not exactly what I think the OP is complaining about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    Haha I know right!!

    Things like that happen more often when I've consumed much caffeine.

    Please do forgive me kind sir.
    I forgive you. You know, on your point about kids... I am two minds. I think there is too much, but I like that it is interactive, probably
    better than all the time I spent passively watching The Flintstones. I like that my daughter can take pics and create on her DS for example.

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    Right now, I'm sitting in front of my computer but am kind of bored. I just had an avocado sandwich. I'm thinking about taking a nap. I will probably do that soon. We're going out to a restaurant tonight and to play bocci ball so that will be fun. It was raining most of the day but seems to have stopped. I just bought some camping chairs and they're really great. Here's my dog. So cute isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Right now, I'm sitting in front of my computer but am kind of bored. I just had an avocado sandwich. I'm thinking about taking a nap. I will probably do that soon. We're going out to a restaurant tonight and to play bocci ball so that will be fun. It was raining most of the day but seems to have stopped. I just bought some camping chairs and they're really great. Here's my dog. So cute isn't it?

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    Why did you watermark your dogs pic?

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    I liked the word @Orangey used... "pathological".

    I just have this strange intuition about facebook, that it's changing our social patterns in some horrifying way. I am horrified, anyways. I had one for about 4 years that I deactivated and never went back to. I hated the thousands of pictures of me, the phantom friends, the interconnectedness that just wasn't real. I just had to end that period of my life and facebook was just hauling everything in a trail behind me.. it's like being haunted. After a while I made a new facebook and just added close friends, rejecting anyone that I didn't talk to regularly in real life, or that I didn't have a permanent bond with. I like being able to see what my friends/family are up to, look at their pictures, etc. I've had my new facebook for a while now, and I have begun to add acquaintances, because I really see no way around socializing without facebook when most people my age +/-10 years are seemingly dependent on it.

    But that's tangential. To answer the OP, I think having an internet identity or an internet "existence" lures people into an attention-seeking mindset. Before, if you had something to say, you'd call up a friend and talk. Now, you don't need anyone to agree to the exchange before you share, you merely throw yourself out into the ether and some people might just respond to you. It's instant validation and you find it feels pretty good. Some people need more validation than others.

    I have a friend (using this word loosely) who constantly whines about her life just to get "poor you" reactions from random people on facebook. It reaffirms her identity as a victim, in my opinion, and she loves it. I could never see her keeping her shit to herself, because then she might get over it. Someone who goes to shows all the time, posts about them, and gets 100 likes, might not go to shows if they aren't getting that validation. I think posting constantly on facebook about the things you are doing helps you mold yourself into someone who is likable, who does things that make you interesting.. reaffirms that you matter.

    Just an off the top of my head collection of thoughts... I prefer discussion!
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    I think this partially evolved from silly small talk.

    People now invent stuff to answer boring stupid questions before they are even asked, like "what did you do today?"

    Seriously. I hate that question. My answer is usually "not much" because the alternative is often "tell a boring story that I don't want to tell and they don't actually want to hear about" then I have to wonder why the hell do I get asked to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I liked the word @Orangey used... "pathological".

    I just have this strange intuition about facebook, that it's changing our social patterns in some horrifying way.
    You know Zukerburg et al plan it that way, he's gone on the record a number of times about how he'd like a world of complete and utter transparency in which no one can hide any secrets or have any privacy, its in his visionary talks and position statements.

    I thought it was bizarre the sort of disclosure in The Social Network and other books about the rise of facebook but its all part of it too. Its real paradigm shifting stuff or at least they want it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    Why did you watermark your dogs pic?
    Actually, that's not my dog.

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