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    Just as MBTI is fake so psychological therapy is harmful.

    The very assumption of therapy is that there is something wrong with you. And guess what, therapy can fix you.

    When you are told there is something wrong with you, you enter a trance. And when they tell you they can fix you, you enter a second trance.

    And these are two interactive trances - one trance leads to the other and the other leads back to the first.

    This is a trance loop, consisting of two trances.

    And yes, any addiction is a double trance loop - hey, there is no way out.

    Go to any bookstore, to the Therapy section, and you will see book upon book upon book - there is no end to them.

    If therapy worked, there would be no need to keep producing book after book after book.

    But therapy merely produces an addiction.

    So just as MBTI is demonstrably fake but keeps on going and going and going, so therapy is also fake and keeps going and going and going.

    Two perfect addictions.

    Victor.

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    You need therapy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Just as MBTI is fake so psychological therapy is harmful.

    The very assumption of therapy is that there is something wrong with you. And guess what, therapy can fix you.

    When you are told there is something wrong with you, you enter a trance. And when they tell you they can fix you, you enter a second trance.
    What about therapies that teach you to exit the trance? Isn't that exactly what your post is all about?

    Go to any bookstore, to the Therapy section, and you will see book upon book upon book - there is no end to them.

    If therapy worked, there would be no need to keep producing book after book after book.
    This is a bad argument because (1) not all books on therapy must be complete or even good. 100 bad books doesn't affect the quality of the 101st. (2) Different books address different problems. (3) Different books have been written at different times to address different audiences. (4) Different books reflect the way we continually refine our understanding of disorders and their causes. Your criticism is just a part of that process, not separate from it. I think it's funny and also a bit that you continuously try to cast yourself apart from the mainstream and criticize it, while not appreciating that you're not only a direct product of it (and depend on it) but even a part of it.

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    Just as psychological therapy is fake then seeing a medical doctor is harmful.

    The very assumption of medicine is that there is something wrong with you. And guess what, medicine can fix you.

    When you are told there is something wrong with you, you enter a trance. And when they tell you they can fix you, you enter a second trance.

    And these are two interactive trances - one trance leads to the other and the other leads back to the first.

    This is a trance loop, consisting of two trances.

    And yes, any addiction is a double trance loop - hey, there is no way out.

    Go to any yellow pages and look in the Medical section, and you will see name upon name upon name of doctors - there is no end to them.

    If medicine worked, there would be no need to keep producing doctor after doctor after doctor.

    But medicine merely produces an addiction.

    So just as psychotherapy is demonstrably fake but keeps on going and going and going, so medicine is also fake and keeps going and going and going.

    Two perfect addictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Just as psychological therapy is fake then seeing a medical doctor is harmful.

    The very assumption of medicine is that there is something wrong with you. And guess what, medicine can fix you.

    When you are told there is something wrong with you, you enter a trance. And when they tell you they can fix you, you enter a second trance.

    And these are two interactive trances - one trance leads to the other and the other leads back to the first.

    This is a trance loop, consisting of two trances.

    And yes, any addiction is a double trance loop - hey, there is no way out.

    Go to any yellow pages and look in the Medical section, and you will see name upon name upon name of doctors - there is no end to them.

    If medicine worked, there would be no need to keep producing doctor after doctor after doctor.

    But medicine merely produces an addiction.

    So just as psychotherapy is demonstrably fake but keeps on going and going and going, so medicine is also fake and keeps going and going and going.

    Two perfect addictions.
    They tell me, dear Jennifer, that you know you have arrived when you have been parodied.

    And you have made a lovely parody.

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    Perhaps you could explain why the act of writing a book about a subject demonstrates that the subject matter is ineffective...? As opposed to, say, sharing how it works and could be applied to those who have not yet experienced it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Just as MBTI is fake so psychological therapy is harmful.

    The very assumption of therapy is that there is something wrong with you. And guess what, therapy can fix you.

    When you are told there is something wrong with you, you enter a trance. And when they tell you they can fix you, you enter a second trance.

    And these are two interactive trances - one trance leads to the other and the other leads back to the first.

    This is a trance loop, consisting of two trances.

    And yes, any addiction is a double trance loop - hey, there is no way out.

    Go to any bookstore, to the Therapy section, and you will see book upon book upon book - there is no end to them.

    If therapy worked, there would be no need to keep producing book after book after book.

    But therapy merely produces an addiction.

    So just as MBTI is demonstrably fake but keeps on going and going and going, so therapy is also fake and keeps going and going and going.

    Two perfect addictions.

    Victor.
    Actually Victor may have a point with reference to the self-perpetuating and circular nature of therapy. RD Laing had a view on conventional therapy back in the 60s which largely agreed with the view if you look for something wrong you'll find it.

    MBTI *demonstrably fake* - as demonstrated by who? Take the good bits and throw away the bad bits.

    How's the weather in Canberra? Good therapy weather I hope.

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    The reaction you get is related to the content of your posts. Your post in this case went over the top is decrying all therapy, neglecting the fact that your post it self is a form of therapy, and that other therapies exist for the same reason, which is to shake one's thirst and clean up their karma. You're not ALL wrong, but your statements are over the top, as usual, and end up getting you into trouble because you sacrifice precision for shock-value and your didactic tone. Your didactic tone is condescending, whether you intend it that way or not, as if to say: here, lowly peons, let me explain to you what's wrong with you all. I don't buy it. A person who really has their shit figured out don't prattle for attention, they speak to communicate efficiently, knowing best how to inculcate their message. You're in the same position we are, searching for answers through trial and error. You can talk to us accordingly, or keep getting negative feedback for your OPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    The reaction you get is related to the content of your posts. Your post in this case went over the top is decrying all therapy, neglecting the fact that your post it self is a form of therapy, and that other therapies exist for the same reason, which is to shake one's thirst and clean up their karma. You're not ALL wrong, but your statements are over the top, as usual, and end up getting you into trouble because you sacrifice precision for shock-value and your didactic tone. Your didactic tone is condescending, whether you intend it that way or not, as if to say: here, lowly peons, let me explain to you what's wrong with you all. I don't buy it. A person who really has their shit figured out don't prattle for attention, they speak to communicate efficiently, knowing best how to inculcate their message. You're in the same position we are, searching for answers through trial and error. You can talk to us accordingly, or keep getting negative feedback for your OPs.
    I seem to be caught between two stools - I can talk down to you or I can go along with the conventional wisdom.

    I know you will say these are not the only two options but at the moment that is all that seems availble to me.

    And yes, you don't like being spoken down to and speaking down to you gives me an ego boost.

    But on the positive side of the ledger, speaking down to you raises the emotional temperature. And high e-motiion leads to motion - leads to you making posts.

    And that is essentially why I am here - for the interaction.

    I would prefer positive interaction but I get very little, almost none, of that so I would prefer negative reaction to none at all.

    Of course I walk a very fine line between garnering attention and being banned.

    It's a bit like sailing across the wind - it is exciting but there is a danger of tipping over.

    Victor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I would prefer positive interaction but I get very little, almost none, of that so I would prefer negative reaction to none at all.
    Hey, Victor. Is that an admission of trolling? Actually I quite like your turn of phrase. "Caught between 2 stools". I know the feeling. Oh yes.

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