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    I'm not sure it has much to do with types. Are any types more prone to interfere with things? Violence? Generosity? I don't think it can be proven that it is the case.

    I believe that it has much to do with what the person in question has experienced him/herself. I have felt powerless and downtrodden at many points in my life, and I just hate people who treat those who are weaker badly.
    I think that the fact that my father have abused me mentally and physically until I grew too big to mess with has contributed to this "complex" in me alot. The fact that I was picked on for a couple of years in school when I was little is also a factor.
    When I see stuff like that going down the adrenaline starts pumping and I generally get into a fight and kick his/their ass(es).

    Cause and effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeatGoesOn View Post
    I call it a complex because of the getting yourself hurt aspect, despite the fact that it'd probably be in one's best interest to get out, yet they don't. The basic emotion of empathy towards others is usually extended to the helpless (in some form or another), and pose no threat.
    I very seldom get hurt, I on the other hand hurt those responsible I choose my time of attack. You know, ENTJ's.

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    It doesn't have to do with type because type doesn't CAUSE stuff. It's descriptive. In other words, you've got it backwards: it's people who constantly defend others who will label themselves as "F" of "NF" based on their behavior, not the other way around.

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    It's true that a person should be judged by his or her actions, but where did you get the idea that people who stand up for others would call themselves F or NF?

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    I have this to an extent and usually toward females. I am a pretty classic ESFJ (albeit with my N and T working decently, I think). That would seem to make sense typologically, but I am sure it can be found throughout the types, to greater and lesser extents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    my friends call it the hero complex but whatever. it's one of my biggest downfalls.

    unhealthy Fe...

    Same here, even though the positive effects of Fe can be tremendous, Fe also gets me into trouble.
    Fe doesn't even have to be that unhealthy to start displaying this IMO. I think it's natural for Fe to want to help and reach out to someone in need.

    I'm withdrawing from one of those situations mentioned in the OP, and I still have mixed feelings about it and feel guilty for letting the other person down, and part of me still wants to be there to help even though I feel beyond drained (and that's the reason I'm withdrawing in the first place,)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeatGoesOn View Post
    Who is prone to these feelings and duties towards certain other individuals? Someone who isn't well grounded or tends to get themselves into hurtful situations and you feel a duty to stick by them even if it gets yourself hurt time and time again. Is this typical of STJs or do most people experience this type of mentality?

    I don't know if it has a lot to do with type and it seems to be evenly divided between males and females too. Personally I can't understand this type of behavior. I am not responsible for someone else's self-esteem and self-worth. I will help but not if I feel the person is only going to squander it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    ...Not that the SP Artistians and us Rationalist wouldn't also do the same from time to time... As Jesus said... if the situation fits the bill.
    Yup. Certain types might be more inclined, but savior complex is also impacted by birth position (the eldest will do it out of responsibility, younger ones might do it out of passion for "what's right" etc...) and family environment/influence.

    (Situations where the child had to enable/"parent" the parent to survive often result in savior complex later in life as well.)

    But when i was growing up, the only fights I remember getting into were in defense of someone else. And I watched other diverse types stick up for the low people on the pole too. I think anyone who can empathize with people who are excluded or suffering some hardship will want to help that person and sometimes not know where to draw a line. it takes a strong person to allow others to suffer if it is in the sufferer's best interest long-term.
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    Old thread but --

    Yeah, I can see male INFJ getting this quite bad.
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    I don't understand this complex. I would only help the people very closest to me, and only if they are going to help themselves. Otherwise, it's like enabling them to continue the bad habits that get them in trouble in the first place. You can't save someone from themself.

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