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    Default Why is strength admirable?

    Not physical strength, strength in any field or skill.

    I could understand an instinctual drive to appreciate strength, but besides that? Anything?
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    If we define strength as an inherent capacity to manifest power, to endure and to resist then it links up with survival, which leads to the preference of existance and non-existance. But you already have that covered. uhm... I'll have to think about this one a bit more.. but I'm leaning to the idea that one can have enough strength to simply survive and still seek more. It's this seeking more that will nail it. Why progress or advance, why desire more, better, higher quality of life in general.. the answer to these will be interwoven with non-survival related strength and probably comes back to ego-identification. Ya.. maybe not, lol.
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    It's a challenge. Gets the blood pumping. Makes your sex drive kick up. Also life valuing behavior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    Not physical strength, strength in any field or skill.
    I could understand an instinctual drive to appreciate strength, but besides that? Anything?
    strength accomplishes tasks, accomplishing tasks brings results, results bring physical comfort, beauty, safety or some other benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    Not physical strength, strength in any field or skill.

    I could understand an instinctual drive to appreciate strength, but besides that? Anything?
    Everyone is fighting some kind of demon.

    If you fight demons in the outer world, you are applying yourself 100% to an external goal, and you gain from a win. The loser yields something, and the win strengthens you.

    If you fight demons in the inner world, OTOH, you split yourself in half, and a win in one area is simultaneously a loss in another. With yourself as the enemy, it’s difficult to gain from a win; a win weakens you as much as it strengthens you.

    I’m not saying that people shouldn’t fight their inner demons; after all, you have to start somewhere. But a strong person is perceived as someone who has already conquered his inner demons and has gone on to fight in the outside world where the prizes are bigger and more tangible; whereas the weak person is perceived as somone who is probably still stuck at the earlier stage of trying to master himself before he can take on the world.

    Hence the stronger person is seen as more admirable, more in control of himself and his environment, more "mature" in a number of ways.

    Just brainstorming here; don’t take it too seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    Not physical strength, strength in any field or skill.

    I could understand an instinctual drive to appreciate strength, but besides that? Anything?
    Confidence and reliability are very attractive traits. Both of those usually flow from people who have skill or strength.
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    We all have to go out and face our metaphorical giants in the real world someday, even if we don't want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    Confidence and reliability are very attractive traits. Both of those usually flow from people who have skill or strength.
    Why is confidence an admirable trait? Reliability has a quality of "tangible evidence" about it, but confidence itself doesn't prove skill or strength.

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    We all have to go out and face our metaphorical giants in the real world someday, even if we don't want to.
    And strength shows the capacity to do that? That would make some sense, I guess... Or did you mean something else?
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    @Cimarron Well, it can go two ways. But really I was talking to myself. It's complicated.
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    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/ke...onfidence.html

    Confidence is hope in action. It's the feeling of existential security, that everything is going to be beautiful. If you feel that success is due to luck or chance you will not take the same actions as if you feel you are in control of the creation of your own reality. That feeling is confidence.
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