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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    So what are you if you treat inanimate objects like human faces?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    But an MBTI or Jungian introvert focuses on valuing internal things. But if one of those introverts disvalues the external realm, including faces, then this was actually predicted by Jung. So everybody who criticized the article was criticizing Jung as well.
    Valuing internal things does not mean that you cannot value external things. I objected to the idea that introverts universally can "take or leave" people. Also, if one introvert (as you have just said) devalues external things, it does not mean that all introverts devalue external things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    Valuing internal things does not mean that you cannot value external things. I objected to the idea that introverts universally can "take or leave" people. Also, if one introvert (as you have just said) devalues external things, it does not mean that all introverts devalue external things.

    I find many things interesting besides people, but I also find human relationships essential.
    Then you can re-word my answer in whatever way pleases you.
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    What I take from this study is extraverts are face sluts. They'll get it on with any face that crosses their eye.

    Typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    great now i read this like introverts eat other people faces!! make that other thread go away!!
    I read it as while extroverts are 100% likely to eat faces, introverts are just as likely to eat flowers as faces.

    I think this should be a new forum meme. And now that this is starting to spin out of control, there's this to consider. (thanks @Space Socks!)
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    Sometimes I wish these studies would break results into the different kinds of introverts (ie. Fi, Ti, Si & Ni). I know they're not coming from an MBTI perspective, but I think the results would vary between the types. I'd be REALLY surprised if Fi-dom treat faces like inanimate objects... I see this as more likely with Ti & Ni doms.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    The article is not talking about MBTI introverts. If only you would simply click the link where it says "introvert." http://www.livescience.com/6291-stud...eople-shy.html

    Wow look at that, even the link to the other page has the word "shy" in it.

    It pisses me off to have to explain this after mentioning it above once already.

    "Socially shy" is not an acceptable definition of "introvert" IN MBTI TERMS. You know this to be true. And yet you continue to berate the author of that page on the basis of your OWN idea of what an introvert is.

    And in fact, your (or our) idea of what an introvert is really isn't generally accepted by psychologists.
    I'm very shy AND introverted and I still don't have that issue... I can't see how a mild social anxiety (which shyness basically is) leads to treating human faces like inanimate objects. Many shy people will report being over-sensitive to cues like that, becoming easily embarrassed, and this causes them to be inhibited. Introversion seems more likely to be the culprit than shyness....

    I DO have the issue of not being able to place someone I know when I see them in another setting (ie. running into them at the store when I'm used to seeing them at church), especially when it's a matter of wearing very different clothing. I always know I know them though; I just can't always place their face and know where I know them from.

    And not remembering names is hugely common; many people will tell you they struggle to remember names of acquaintances.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    in·tro·vert/ˈintrəˌvərt/
    Noun:
    A shy, reticent, and typically self-centered person.
    A person predominantly concerned with their own thoughts and feelings rather than with external things.

    "An extroverted person is likely to enjoy time spent with people and find less reward in time spent alone. They tend to be energized when around other people..." (Wiki).

    It's Jung who is off-the-wall in obscurely defining these two terms according to cognitive attitude or focus of attention regarding functions. That's not to say he is wrong, but that we are comparing two different systems here that happen to use the same words.
    The bolded is pretty much in-line with Jung's ideas, IMO, just put more crudely, and it's pretty much how MBTI words it also. The "energized" around other people is a way of saying they're focused on the object more than their inner world. I don't think I need to explain the introverted definition above & how it connects to Jung's ideas...
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    I keep thinking about the scene from In Bruges where Ralph Fiennes is all "You're an inanimate object!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    great now i read this like introverts eat other people faces!! make that other thread go away!!
    I initially read the thread title as "Introverts treat human feces like inantimate objects." Am I the only one who misread this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    What I take from this study is extraverts are face sluts. They'll get it on with any face that crosses their eye.

    Typical.
    We introverts need to start wearing masks now?

    I feel suffocated by the prying eyes of extroverts looking at my face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIrony View Post
    I prefer flowers to people.
    I know what you mean....sometimes I forget im talking to a person and I try to smell them midway through the conversation.

    Then I try to encourage bees to land on them and begin pollination by smearing them with honey

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