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    Quote Originally Posted by curiousel View Post
    so should I go ahead for it?
    In my opinion? Not unless you need it for medical reasons or in order to function in society -- i.e. I agree with @prplchknz. And since you're asking, I'm going to presume you don't need it; if you were disfigured from a disease or an accident or something, you wouldn't be asking on a forum, you'd be out getting the surgery you needed.

    To put it in friendlier terms: Everyone can look good with the facial features they have. Ugliness is so much more to do with personality -- and with personal grooming and hygeine! -- than with something that could be fixed with plastic surgery.
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    It just dawned on me that I should point out that plasctic surgery is not synonymous with cosmetic surgery. For instance, mom's optometrist says she will probably need to get plastic surgery on her eyelids eventually because they're getting so droopy they're starting to interfere with her vision.
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    IMO, I think cosmetic surgery is fake and like a mask, but if someone wanted to do it, I wouldn't mind.

    Edit: Cosmetic surgery for non-medical reasons, I mean.
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    I'm all for personal freedom, and obviously if someone wants to do anything that would significantly increase their quality of life in the long term, they should do it.

    That being said, here's a Daniel Tosh quote: "I'm all for women who get plastic surgery, because plastic surgery allows you to make your outer appearance resemble your inner appearance — fake".

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    I think it's one of those things that often people start out being incredibly moral about but with age become more lax over said moralistic views. My mother for example is now seventy and whilst she did not used to consider it a worthy idea, she now would welcome it, out of vanity.
    On the other hand I have a (massively esfp) friend who has had a boob job, she also has botox and several other minor procedures, she has absolutely zero qualms about it and infact is always recommending it as a remedy to people's physical imperfections.
    At the moment i still stand pretty firm on the "natural is best" side of things but there are things i would change with my magic wand if i could.
    I have a silly things about my knees, they are flat... i am told this is quite ridiculous, but i would like them to have more nobble.
    Imo no-one is perfect, i like the little imperfections people have to distinguish them and to remind me that everyone is an individual. How boring the world would be if everyone looked the same.
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    Unless the person has been disfigured in someway or developed unnaturally, I don't see the point personally.
    I know someone right now who is feeding his wife's self esteem issues to the point of wanting surgery done when there is nothing physically wrong with her and she is infact attractive, you'd probably give her a 7 or 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD45T-2 View Post
    It just dawned on me that I should point out that plasctic surgery is not synonymous with cosmetic surgery. For instance, mom's optometrist says she will probably need to get plastic surgery on her eyelids eventually because they're getting so droopy they're starting to interfere with her vision.

    Oh yes, quite definately. Also burns victims often need plastic surgery...and breast cancer patients who have had mastectomies frequently have breast implant/s post mastectomy. There are lots of medical reasons... there is a relatively new idea that botox can help with chronic migrane sufferers too.
    Yah... i think the idea of this thread is more to do with the cosmetic side of things... but that can also be a bit blurry.
    For example it is considered "cosmetic" to have false teeth/tooth implants for any teeth missing which are not in the first front four upper or lower (uk nhs definition). I doubt most people would consider that cosmetic in the same sense though.
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    I think for medical reasons/disfigurement/etc, it's a blessing.

    I think for reasons involving fixing 'physical imperfections', everyone jumping on the botox/cosmetic surgery bandwagon merely exacerbates everyones' belief in physical imperfections, or even the process of Aging itself, being somehow 'wrong', and it cements into the mind of most the element of judging those for said imperfections - that those people are somehow wanting.

    I *understand* the urge to try to make oneself more objectively 'beautiful', but over time the shift in everyones' expectations around appearance will be the result - such that cosmetic surgery may be more of a requirement, and those who don't get it may stick out more and be judged as a result..which I find sad.
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    ^Nice.

    I think also that movies, media, and, actually......facebook.....are promulgating this need to be beautiful or bust.

    The thing is, that pictures/film/stage personas are not the sort of reality that we humans can live in all the time, nor not how we look irl. (think of a pic of a movie star without makeup, or how an actress/actor looks in their stage make-up up close)--it's just not REAL. Yet that is the bar we are setting for ourselves now. People tell me I'm attractive, but I take horrible pictures, and when I see the pictures I will then feel bad about myself. Pictures--the way that we do them--are becoming one of the most abused and narcissistic expressions of our collective lack of good-will, and, to me, represent a breakdown of our society because we are so focused on our facebook page that we care little about our neighbor's true well-being.

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    I'm not a fan of plastic surgery.

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