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    Optimism and Pessimism

    Americans are optimistic while Australians are pessimistic.

    So when things are going well against our expectations, we are delighted; but when things are going badly for Americans, against their expectations, they panic.

    So we must endure American movies with their happy endings, while Americans must endure our deprecatory sense of humour, which they regard as self destructive and pathological.

    So we are divided by the seasons, by day and night, and by our disposition to optimism and pessimism.

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    Aussies seemed more optimistic than pessimistic to me - well from a NZ perspective anyway.

    I wouldn't draw to many Australia vs. USA dichotomies. Australia shares many American qualities, and increasingly so in recent years.
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    Can countries be typified by a degree of overall optimism or pessimism? If so, I would certainly say that my country is pessimistic in the extreme, seeing as how moaning and doom saying is a national sport here.
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    The 4th of July and ANZAC Day

    Consider our national holidays -

    The Fourth of July is an optimistic celebration

    while -

    ANZAC Day is a pessimisic memorial and wake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Consider our national holidays -

    The Fourth of July is an optimistic celebration

    while -

    ANZAC Day is a pessimisic memorial and wake.
    Was that in reply to me? I am not American or Australian. I see your point of course.

    Although with pessimism and optimism they are both subject to a doubt in character when taken to the extremes. So if someone is too pessimistic or too optimistic they have a lack of reality outside of their own assumptions.

    It's either overestimation or underestimation. Although in general pessimists enjoy pretending that they have a better grasp on the reality of things than optimists, merely based on their own misery...oh you unique and special pessimists, those ignorant sheep will never know the truth will they? Now pat yourself on the back as you walk head over heels into your fantasy. Dont forget to tread on toes and moan all the way, how ever will people understand the magnificent depth of your insight into our doom otherwise?
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Consider our national holidays -

    The Fourth of July is an optimistic celebration

    while -

    ANZAC Day is a pessimisic memorial and wake.
    How about if we were to compare Australia Day with Independence Day

    and ANZAC day with Memorial day/Veterans day?

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