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    Well, I am not pregnant… That just leaves one other thing… Hm.

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    I pay no attention to those jealous detractors who declare that oxytocin is old news. Of course oxytocin has very well-known effects, and in fact I work in an environment where oxytocin is dispensed on a daily basis. However, that doesn't mean that all the effects have been studied. The relevance to mentioning the present study on this forum is to typology, and even though oxytocin cannot change an introvert into an extrovert, it can help an introvert with social discomfort.

    But one possibility not mentioned in the article is that of using oxytocin to help with so-called stage-fright, a wide-spread phenomenon not limited to introverts.
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    Where can I get this?!

    But seriously, I don't know that lack of extroversion is the only problem; inhibition is also a major factor. I'm not entirely sure that oxytocin would have an effect on that. A fair amount of alcohol manages to do both for me. Not that I self-medicate like that on a regular basis; I've hardly ever done it in the last few years.

    I wonder if it will leave you the same feelings of mortification in the morning ("OMG, I can't believe I said that?!" )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    Where can I get this?!

    But seriously, I don't know that lack of extroversion is the only problem; inhibition is also a major factor. I'm not entirely sure that oxytocin would have an effect on that. A fair amount of alcohol manages to do both for me. Not that I self-medicate like that on a regular basis; I've hardly ever done it in the last few years.

    I wonder if it will leave you the same feelings of mortification in the morning ("OMG, I can't believe I said that?!" )
    Yes, oxytocin is better than alcohol so it is obviously better at creating such feelings the morning after.

    The inhibition you referred to is more of a low-level extraversion factor, it doesn't apply to high-level extraverts or to introverts.
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    PLEASE READ THIS: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...04394008007568

    I've administered exogenous oxytocin to myself in an effort to reduce my blood pressure during a period of very high stress in my life.
    I purchased it from a well known Canadian company that synthesizes pepetides of various kinds for various research purposes.
    In short, my blood pressure (usually 120/80 OR Less - BUT during a very stressful episodee of my life @ 140/100) went back down to 120/80 after only two administrations of the peptide mixed with bacteriostastic water, provided by the supplier, my blood pressure returned to 120/80 OR Less.

    I also felt a sense of clamness/well being that had no distinguishable origin, but was welcome nonetheless at that point in my life.

    I continued therapy for 30 days while modifying my diet and cardiovascular exercise accordingly, and my blood pressure returned to normal WITHOUT thue use of ANY hypertension drugs.

    I am NOT ADVOCATING that ANYONE TRY THIS.

    I am simply stating my own life experience.
    The stuff is real.
    It does what it says it does.
    There is a vast shortage though on what amount of administration should be used for such purposes considering the research done to date has been limited and often targeted at non-human species.

    Do not buy anything from a non-verified provider. Your health is at risk if you do. This is not a game.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    PLEASE READ THIS: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...04394008007568

    I've administered exogenous oxytocin to myself in an effort to reduce my blood pressure during a period of very high stress in my life.
    I purchased it from a well known Canadian company that synthesizes pepetides of various kinds for various research purposes.
    In short, my blood pressure (usually 120/80 OR Less - BUT during a very stressful episodee of my life @ 140/100) went back down to 120/80 after only two administrations of the peptide mixed with bacteriostastic water, provided by the supplier, my blood pressure returned to 120/80 OR Less.
    So you drank the mixture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    So you drank the mixture?
    No, it's not that simple.

    You must mix it up much like insulin, where each mg of poweder (in this case Oxytocin) would be mixed with "X" cc's of bacteriostatic water.
    Then you have to admnister it via subcutaneous injection, just like an insulin shot.
    It's painless.
    There are other peptide products that have gained widespread popularity such as "Melanotan 2" ; "PT-141" ; "CJC1295 with DAC" ; etc.
    This is a booming industry.
    Google the items I noted above and you will see how widespread the use of these peptides are to achieve one or more life benefits.
    This is essentially manipulation of the body's biochemistry via peptides created by recombinatn DNA technology in sterile laboratory conditions.
    Orthodpedic surgeons use "bone morphogenic protein" (a peptide) to accelarate spinal fusions.
    Doctors use HGH (human growth hormone) to induce gorwth in children living with dwarfism to allow them to reach near normal height and stature.
    And of course, there are designer uses, like Anna Nicole Smith using HGH to lose weight. Silliest shit ever, IMHO.
    Anyway, look it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    hmm.. cool. I wonder if could help people with stuff like social anxiety then.
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    Yes, it has anxiety and fear relieving effect, its actually being studied if it could be used as a drug for social anxiety. Basically it makes you more at ease with your surroundings, helps on strenghtening trust and bond between people. The E and oxytosin thing is quite old news, its not something that turned out in this study, this just validated it more with the study.

    But the problem with this is that(at least in some countries), you cant get oxytosin without prescription and its pretty much only used to trigger labor in cases where the baby refuses to come out fast enough.

    But you can get it from your brains also, its released on sex(and pleasant touch in general, like massage, hugginh, kissing), when breast feeding a baby(milk comes out better) and when giving birth.
    The problem I see with this is the awfully short half-life of Oxytocin. Unless you are constantly sniffing this stuff (or constantly getting shots) the effects will wear down quite fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rail Tracer View Post
    The problem I see with this is the awfully short half-life of Oxytocin.
    Regardless of the short half-life, the pronounced effects of lowering blood pressure were realized w/in 48 hours of administration, and also blood pressure remained lower than normal for the rats that were normally hypertensive for a significant amount of time after cessation of admnistration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rail Tracer View Post
    Unless you are constantly sniffing this stuff (or constantly getting shots) the effects will wear down quite fast.
    This is an assumption at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rail Tracer View Post
    The problem I see with this is the awfully short half-life of Oxytocin. Unless you are constantly sniffing this stuff (or constantly getting shots) the effects will wear down quite fast.
    Oxytosin doesent work like valium. While valium just numbs you, thus reliefs anxiety, oxytosin helps you to create trusting bond with the people. This bond doesent just disappear after oxytosin wears off. Lets say you are meeting your new boss for the first time and feel anxiwty over it, oxytosin helps on breaking the ice and create bond with the boss and once you start to bond with someone, you naturally wont feel anxious meeting the person in the future. Valium on the other hand just numbs you, so if you numb yourself first time you meet the boss, you will most likely feel anxiety the next time also or start to feel anxious when the effects wear off. Using natural hormones is totally different thing from using some unnatural drugs.
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