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Correlation between introversion and self-centeredness?

swordpath

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Are introverts more self-centered? Is it bad?

What's to say for extroverts? Are they generally giving, compassionate and aware of others?
 

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No.. but it appears that things that are rewarding to introverts differ from those that are rewarding to extraverts.. and the things that the former does to reap said rewards are centered around solitary activity, whereas for the latter they are centered around others. Now, just because an action is centered around others does not mean it is giving, just as an action that is done in solitude is not necessarily self-centered..
 

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Introverts start confined within themselves and extend into the world.
Extroverts start in the world and extend into themselves.

(Put another way -- the sense of self for an introvert is often within, for an extrovert it's often without.)

An extrovert who doesn't expend energy to introspect will still be engaging the world. An introvert who doesn't expend energy to extrovert will seem withdrawn and self-absorbed. introverts thus might seem selfish... especially to extroverts.

I think extroverts can be just as selfish. They just show it in different ways, usually in how they interact with others, try to control them, what they take for themselves, etc.
 

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I agree with Dana. And by the way, I'm pretty self-centered myself. I'm the perfect center for myself. Oh, but I'm not greedy or selfish. Me and my time belong to me to use as I choose. And I give everyone else the same right.
 

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I agree with Dana... objectively speaking.

As for personal experience... I can't possibly say as, due to their natures, I don't know as many introverts as I do extroverts so any assessment would be lopsided and invalid.
 

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The main reasons that are coming to my mind regarding relationships:
Introverts are self-centered in that they are somewhat unwilling to make sacrafices (of time, getting to know others, etc.)
Extraverts are self-centered in that they demand attention.
 

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The main reasons that are coming to my mind regarding relationships:
Introverts are self-centered in that they are somewhat unwilling to make sacrafices (of time, getting to know others, etc.)

I have to disagree with that. Using myself and the few introverts I have known, that willingness in "getting to know others" is, to me, a misguided stereotypical assessment that's developed probably on groups like INTPc and doesn't hold water. I, for one, am fascinated with people and wish to know them. In fact, taking the point one step further, I think the odds of an "I" getting to know another person deeply and understanding them is greater than those of an "E" doing so just because of the "focus" factor. "Is" just don't care to attempt that in a group setting precisely because of their need to focus deeply without distractions.

I run my own graphics group and am constantly hearing from members that they can't believe I remember this or that little tidbit about them (their likes and dislikes, color preferences, etc) that I learned a dozen years ago when they mentioned it in passing. Why? Because I focus on them intently.... but one a time which is easy on the net.
 

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I have to disagree with that. Using myself and the few introverts I have known, that willingness in "getting to know others" is, to me, a misguided stereotypical assessment that's developed probably on groups like INTPc and doesn't hold water. I, for one, am fascinated with people and wish to know them. In fact, taking the point one step further, I think the odds of an "I" getting to know another person deeply and understanding them is greater than those of an "E" doing so just because of the "focus" factor. "Is" just don't care to attempt that in a group setting precisely because of their need to focus deeply without distractions.

I run my own graphics group and am constantly hearing from members that they can't believe I remember this or that little tidbit about them (their likes and dislikes, color preferences, etc) that I learned a dozen years ago when they mentioned it in passing. Why? Because I focus on them intently.... but one a time which is easy on the net.

I suppose, but extreme introverts would not pertain to your case.
 

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I suppose, but extreme introverts would not pertain to your case.

Were you referring to me? (Language!) "your case"... or to my posit? I am quite introverted. I don't know how you define "extreme," but, not remembering the exact percentage but only the graph, I'm waaay left of center on the scale.
 

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So extreme they are almost pure. They would be peoplephobic and probably categorized as autistic.

Selectively mute people (do not have to be extreme introverts) could pertain to this kind of selfishness.
 

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So extreme they are almost pure. They would be peoplephobic and probably categorized as autistic.

Selectively mute people (do not have to be extreme introverts) could pertain to this kind of selfishness.

Hmm, gladly, I doubt I've met one of those irl. Although I did work with autistic children.. so, could be. But I also don't think I know any equally extreme extroverts.
 

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Introverts are self-centered in that they are somewhat unwilling to make sacrafices (of time, getting to know others, etc.)
Extraverts are self-centered in that they demand attention.
imho, there's truth in this. In fact, just bumped against this dynamic last night. Introvert me had to put my extravert game face on yesterday for a work-related, all-day promo event. When I got home, all I wanted to do was be left alone to detox. But my extravert SO wanted attention. Neither of us really wanted to sacrifice for the other, and although we reached something of a compromise, the evening did not end on a pleasant note.

Compromise pretty much means that both parties are pissed off.
 

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It is better to share the anger than to tip the scales.
 

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introversion is not relating things to yourself in regards to how they will benefit you
 

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Introverts are often less narcissistic. This probably has to do with receiving and wanting less praise. Tell my if my spelling is wrong. This is because introverts thrive less on others and do not need to be told that they're super sexy / cool every 5 minutes. Introverts (especially strong ones like me) get suspicious when they receive a lot of praise. We have pretty much learned to fend for ourselves, so in a way, we need less affirmation from the outside world. Resulting in less need to be asthetically pleasing, and thus less narcissistic.
 
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Introverts are often less narcissistic. This probably has to do with receiving and wanting less praise. Tell my if my spelling is wrong.

You're as un-narcissistic as Miss Piggy.
miss-piggy1.jpg
 

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Introverts are often less narcissistic. This probably has to do with receiving and wanting less praise. Tell my if my spelling is wrong.

FAIL!
 

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Introverts are often less narcissistic. This probably has to do with receiving and wanting less praise. Tell my if my spelling is wrong.

Seriously, back up your points. None of your posts have their points backed up.

>_>
 
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