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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I was born with the inability to deliberatly inflict pain onto others.
    A gentleman never inadvertantly inflicts pain on others.

    On the other hand, a gentleman has the ability to deliberately inflict pain on others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    A gentleman never inadvertantly inflicts pain on others.

    On the other hand, a gentleman has the ability to deliberately inflict pain on others.
    I am not gentle, I am Renaissance Man
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I am not gentle, I am Renaissance Man
    I can imagine you in a velvet suit, a Renaissance Man to the very core of your being.

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    I've recently come across something called reactive attachment disorder, via a docu about a girl with this disorder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME2wm...eature=related
    I wanted to touch upon the therapies designed to supposedly "cure" it... The treatment some of these children with this disorder have endured is nothing less than cruel and evil, frequently resulting in the death of the children. The following links might be quite upsetting to some.

    A case where a child was killed by therapy for this disorder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candace_Newmaker
    A survivors account of the experience and effects the therapy had on her (wait a few seconds for page to uncover): http://tinyurl.com/c4tb9up

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    Quote Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
    I've recently come across something called reactive attachment disorder, via a docu about a girl with this disorder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME2wm...eature=related
    I wanted to touch upon the therapies designed to supposedly "cure" it... The treatment some of these children with this disorder have endured is nothing less than cruel and evil, frequently resulting in the death of the children. The following links might be quite upsetting to some:

    A case where a child was killed by therapy for this disorder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candace_Newmaker
    A survivors account of the experience and effects the therapy had on her (wait a few seconds for page to uncover): http://tinyurl.com/c4tb9up

    I just finished watching (all three parts) of the child of rage doc you linked. It affected me greatly, the ability to externalise the pain the little girl felt when she was finally able to... reduced me to tears.
    I think the therapy in the documentary was pretty damn good actually. There didn't seem to be any mention of that ridiculous holding therapy abuse that religious nuts use.
    Maybe you were responding to someone else's post or just didn't distinguish the two forms of therapy you were referring to, i'm not sure.
    But wow yeah, emotion.
    "We knew he was someone who had a tragic flaw, that's where his greatness came from"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelenOfTroy View Post
    I just finished watching (all three parts) of the child of rage doc you linked. It affected me greatly, the ability to externalise the pain the little girl felt when she was finally able to... reduced me to tears.
    I think the therapy in the documentary was pretty damn good actually. There didn't seem to be any mention of that ridiculous holding therapy abuse that religious nuts use.
    Maybe you were responding to someone else's post or just didn't distinguish the two forms of therapy you were referring to, i'm not sure.
    But wow yeah, emotion.
    Oops. I didn't mean to relate the girl in the docu (Beth Thomas) to the holding therapy.

    Beth grew up to write a book called 'More Than a Thread of Hope', which i checked out on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/More-Than-Thre...ews/B0015OD3H2
    & through one of the reviews found out about holding therapy: http://www.amazon.com/review/R2WU4GI...R2WU4GIRQX8OYN

    I'm not sure of the extent of the therapy that Beth received, but her adopted mother (Nancy Thomas) does have associations with the practice of holding therapy, according to this review:

    "Nancy Thomas has long been the leading proponent of "Attachment Therapy & Parenting" (also called Holding Therapy, Rage Reduction, Nancy Thomas parenting, etc.). She worked with the now de-licensed Neil Feinberg at the infamous Attachment Center at Evergreen (Colorado) and later was an associate of "Connell Watkins & Associates" when Watkins killed a 10yo girl in a therapy session."

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