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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Yes, the purpose of the drug culture is to suppress the abreaction. And in suppressing the abreaction, they also suppress the joy.

    Of course the drug culture does give the illusion of joy. But the illusion of joy is simply the relief at suppressing the abreaction.
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    I havent felt anger, rage or hatred for a long time. I dunno if thats healthy but things just dont get me to react so quickly no more
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    Well, society is actually accomodating to most of our psychological needs, it's a matter of finding the right place and time. Deficating is a human need, but even Fi'er agree we shouldn't do it in the middle of a public movie theatre. I'm sure there is that one guy who's abreaction is to deficate in a public theatre. Well, I guess they are screwed.. maybe make it some sort of performace art? I dunno, get creative. Come on, don't wait for somebody to lead you by the hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Standing between us and joy is the abreaction.

    The abreaction is all the fear, hatred and rage we have repressed during our upbringing.

    So to our surprise, we feel fear, hatred and rage when we first start to experience joy.

    And worse, our abreaction is socially unacceptable. So we must repress it once again to survive in society, just as we repressed it to survive in our family.

    So we are in the perfect trap. We long to experience joy, but the first thing we experience is the abreaction.

    Is there a way out of this trap?
    There is no trap. The only way out is through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The abreaction is all the fear, hatred and rage we have repressed during our upbringing.
    Ok Sigmund Freud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Guess View Post
    I know; I was just messing with you. What you're saying makes perfect sense, actually. What people call catharsis, is the release of repressed negativity; only once the negativity has been moved past, can people actually head toward true joy. It is unfortunate that we must suffer through our repressed negativity before we can truly experience happiness. And, of course, your original point about the repression being due to societal influence is valid, as well.

    The question I have here is, is it possible to circumvent the abreaction to move toward true psychological health and happiness?
    It is important to experience the abreaction, then it is important to understand the abreaction, then evaluate the abreaction, and then finally to integrate all the repressed feelings into our normal life.

    And none of this can happen without first experiencing the abreaction. It is no good talking about ii. It is no good thinking about it. It must be experienced. The feeling must first be felt. The abreaction is experiential.

    However the abreaction is also disorientating and leaves us vulnerable. So it is vital to have an experienced caretaker with us when we start to abreact. So we can experience the feelings fully and safely, and then analyse, evaluate and integrate them into our lives.

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