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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    you want to know everything as opposed to already knowing everything.
    I'm beyond that point. I've realized that I can't know everything, the holistic elephant remains thoroughly beyond my grasp. And then it's time for a paradigm shift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    I'm beyond that point. I've realized that I can't know everything, the holistic elephant remains thoroughly beyond my grasp. And then it's time for a paradigm shift.
    I just went on a big long response soliloquy in my head that resulted in a bunch of laughter but would have been totally off topic and trollish.

    What's your paradigm shift? Just accepting that no one can know everything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    I just went on a big long response soliloquy in my head that resulted in a bunch of laughter but would have been totally off topic and trollish.

    What's your paradigm shift? Just accepting that no one can know everything?
    Mine? No, maybe, I don't know. But I've been watching hard-line physicists these days dancing around with their theories trying to defend what is definitely becoming more and more indefensible because the data is extending farther than their standard theories can reach. That goes for theories concerning both the macrocosm and the microcosm, cosmology and QM. I wish I was up in the mix pushing for a paradigm shift so they can end the hemming and hawing, at least for another hundred years or so until another paradigm shift is required.
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    Socrates... Is the definition of wisdom to most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    Socrates... Is the definition of wisdom to most.
    G. I. Gurdjieff believed that the secrets of the universe can be acquired only through knowing oneself.
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    @mal12345

    Yeah, that whole universal truth stuff is lame Sophism FTW!

    Knowing yourself is important, knowing you don't know what yourself is might save you struggle, hahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    "Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others". The effect is about paradoxical defects in cognitive ability, both in oneself and as one compares oneself to others."
    I wonder what leads to this lack of perspective though? It doesn't seem to be clearly linked to type or intelligence for example, but something else. Is it merely lack of experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catbert View Post
    I wonder what leads to this lack of perspective though? It doesn't seem to be clearly linked to type or intelligence for example, but something else. Is it merely lack of experience?
    Lack of self-esteem.
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    How does a lack of self esteem lead to overconfidence? I would perhaps expect the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Knowledge on a topic is not always equivalent to IQ- but it does make sense that the more you know, the more you realize you don't know.
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