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    Liberals are pussies who can't get it into their heads when and where to draw the line. Conservatives are douchebags bound by idiotic outdated standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    I am offended. But you have every right to say it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    No. Conservatives aren't just about lowering taxes, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. Conservatives care more about maintaining the established institutions and societal roles and emphasize hierarchy. A good deal of them are obsessed with tradition, keeping traditional values (they are often rigid Christians who take the Bible more literally), and like the idea of people being more suitable than others to make decisions. I'd say it's an SJ thing.

    Liberals, on the other hand, are more about making sure everyone has equal rights, people are unfairly mistreated, giving people more rights, and are more focused on making sure no one is dominating the social sphere (although supposed liberal politicians are hypocritical of this). They value individual rights, equality, open-mindedness (at least a true liberal, anyway), and individuality. I'd say it's an Fi or Ne (or a combination of the two) thing.
    conservatives are focused on progress and if lowering taxes aids in doing so then its a viable option. I tried checking on google on conservatives advocating and being concerned about over taxing...found nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by yakimadude View Post
    conservatives are focused on progress and if lowering taxes aids in doing so then its a viable option. I tried checking on google on conservatives advocating and being concerned about over taxing...found nothing
    Wait, I didn't say conservatives aren't concerned about lowering taxes -- they obviously are -- but that's because they care more about economic freedom than individual freedom. But it's ironic, because they think they are fighting for freedom, when in reality, they are just giving the big corporations/pre-established working institutions all the power. They also may think they are focused on progress, but they are just inhibiting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Wait, I didn't say conservatives aren't concerned about lowering taxes -- they obviously are -- but that's because they care more about economic freedom than individual freedom. But it's ironic, because they think they are fighting for freedom, when in reality, they are just giving the big rporations/pre-established working institutions all the power. They also may think they are focused on progress, but they are just inhibiting it.
    the majority of articles I found, were over conservatives being concerned with economic progress. if No one can buy anything than some business are not going to fair well. so its important that people are able to make purchase. its a choice not coming out of being humane

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    Quote Originally Posted by yakimadude View Post
    the majority of articles I found, were over conservatives being concerned with economic progress. No one can buy anything and business don't fair well, if no one is buying anything. so its important that people are able to continue to be able to make purchases, in this situation lowering taxes. its a choice not coming out of being humane, it would seem but more to allow people to spend and continue this economic progress
    Right, I understand what conservatives are concerned about, but the fact of the matter is that it allows the big businesses to take over. So it's basically economic freedom vs. individual freedom, between the two.
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    Comcervatives are mentally retarded, liberals arent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Right, I understand what conservatives are concerned about, but the fact of the matter is that it allows the big businesses to take over. So it's basically economic freedom vs. individual freedom, between the two.
    ah, so if people want economic freedom then rights need to be given up or lost? im not following

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    Quote Originally Posted by yakimadude View Post
    ah, so if people want economic freedom then rights need to be given up or lost? im not following
    No. It's just that conservatives care more about the economy than the individual. They don't realize that they are inadvertently restricting freedom because conservatism is naturally power-dependent -- and artificial and primitive, and it by very nature is not suitable (?) for progress to flourish.

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