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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    It is not in your President's gift to limit power, rather it is in the gift of your Constitution.
    But the constitution fails, and the proof is the president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    But the constitution fails, and the proof is the president.
    forgive me if I've taken this out of context, but the United States Constitution fails because we don't use it. among the most blatant offenses in plain sight are
    - disregard for habeus corpus
    - government controlled press (yes, it's true, I don't care who tells you otherwise)
    - everything to do with the Victory Acts and Patriot Acts
    - the fiat currency system we're on
    - the federal government slowing taking control of state's right (the Constitution blatantly states that all powers not delegated to the federal government by the Constitution are the authority of the state or local governments)
    - declaring war at will
    ....I could go on for pages of violations of the top of my head, but I'll spare you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    forgive me if I've taken this out of context, but the United States Constitution fails because we don't use it. among the most blatant offenses in plain sight are
    - disregard for habeus corpus
    - government controlled press (yes, it's true, I don't care who tells you otherwise)
    - everything to do with the Victory Acts and Patriot Acts
    - the fiat currency system we're on
    - the federal government slowing taking control of state's right (the Constitution blatantly states that all powers not delegated to the federal government by the Constitution are the authority of the state or local governments)
    - declaring war at will
    ....I could go on for pages of violations of the top of my head, but I'll spare you
    It is true. But apparently, nothing really force goverment to respect the constitution. It's in part why I'am anarcho-capitalist and not minarchist you know.: you can create the most libertarian state possible, it seems unavoidable to have a socialist country two or three centuries later. And the proof in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    It is true. But apparently, nothing really force goverment to respect the constitution. It's in part why I'am anarcho-capitalist and not minarchist you know.: you can create the most libertarian state possible, it seems unavoidable to have a socialist country two or three centuries later. And the proof in the USA.
    you've done your homework
    I'm not sure at this point if I'm a libertarian small government supporter or an anarcho-capitalist at the moment. all I know is, the Enlightenment happened 500 years ago, people need to grow the fuck up and realize that they don't have the right to be controlling the rights and priviledges of grown ass adults
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    you've done your homework
    I'm not sure at this point if I'm a libertarian small government supporter or an anarcho-capitalist at the moment. all I know is, the Enlightenment happened 500 years ago, people need to grow the fuck up and realize that they don't have the right to be controlling the rights and priviledges of grown ass adults
    Clearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    It's in part why I'am anarcho-capitalist and not minarchist you know.: you can create the most libertarian state possible, it seems unavoidable to have a socialist country two or three centuries later. And the proof in the USA.
    Unregulated competition might work well from an economic perspective, but fails miserably socially. Over time, there will be too much disparity to sustain a cohesive, stable society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    Unregulated competition might work well from an economic perspective, but fails miserably socially. Over time, there will be too much disparity to sustain a cohesive, stable society.
    Why would "the society" should be cohesive and stable? What is fine is freedom and porosperity and, eventually, stable and cohesive private social sphere, like family for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Why would "the society" should be cohesive and stable? What is fine is freedom and porosperity and, eventually, stable and cohesive private social sphere, like family for example.
    Do you believe prosperity and stability is possible without order ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Do you believe prosperity and stability is possible without order ?
    I believe in spontaneous order, not in coercive order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I believe in spontaneous order, not in coercive order.
    So if we take every personal opinion by every individual into account and then hope that tho they are all different, a spontaneous order would form, wouldnt then there still be some individuals who feel the new order would have been coercively implied on them ?

    You remind me of all those anarchy - loving punkers in Germany, they share the same idealistic opinion. I love that opinion, its a desireable one, but its physically impossible because no matter what order you have, someone will always feel pissed at and even if its only those that feel pissed at, who desire a more coercive order in an Anarchy.
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