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    Default Morbid Humor

    There are several people on the forum who use morbid humor very well like Mort Belfry. Others I just want to take an acid rinse and wonder if they're truly joking or wrapping their seriousness in humor to make it more palatable.

    What differentiates this brand of humor from others? What is it's purpose?

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    Humour is a survival tactic.. we laugh at painful subjects to protect our psyches. So dark humour preys on this - it is just an extension of slapstick (haha! He fell over!). Misfortune is a key part of what we find amusing.

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    This is an interesting question.

    I believe that those with a morbid sense of humor tend to have a preference for thinking. So I believe their sense of humor is born from their objective, detached natures. Because they tend to objectify living things they have less qualms about subjects that are taboo and thus tend to say offensive things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    I believe that those with a morbid sense of humor tend to have a preference for thinking. So I believe their sense of humor is born from their objective, detached natures. Because they tend to objectify living things they have less qualms about subjects that are taboo and thus tend to say offensive things.
    That sounded correct at first, from a theoretical POV (I would have said the same thing)... then I started thinking and realized that I know many IxFJs and even some INFPs with dark-humor/sardonic qualities. They tend to be a little happier if they've had happy lives, but if they've had to deal with some hard things, they can develop a very cutting, very cynical and morbid/pessimistic humor sense.
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    Absolutely. When I am stressed or feeling apatethic my sense of humor tends to be morbid.

    Incidentally, I make a distinction between a morbid sense of humor and a disturbing one.

    I don't want to dredge up old bones but I think PM is concerned with those that have a "disturbing" sense of humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    Absolutely. When I am stressed or feeling apatethic my sense of humor tends to be morbid.

    Incidentally, I make a distinction between a morbid sense of humor and a disturbing one.

    I don't want to dredge up old bones but I think PM is concerned with those that have a "disturbing" sense of humor.
    There's a cultural thing in there, too, of course. Witness the reaction to the Danish cartoons in the middle east. To me it was quite harmless.

    There's a line between morbid and disturbing but it isn't clearly defined. For me, the trick is to recognise that something is inherently funny because it does something clever, rather than just that you are meant to laugh because it is so shocking the only other response is to be offended, and its uncool to be offended.

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    Maybe a good example of morbid vs disturbing:

    Morbid: Edward Gorey
    Disturbing: Francis Bacon

    Morbid: Lemony Snicket
    Disturbing: H.R. Giger

    Morbid: Al Gore
    Disturbing: George W. Bush

    Any questions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    There's a cultural thing in there, too, of course. Witness the reaction to the Danish cartoons in the middle east. To me it was quite harmless.

    There's a line between morbid and disturbing but it isn't clearly defined. For me, the trick is to recognise that something is inherently funny because it does something clever, rather than just that you are meant to laugh because it is so shocking the only other response is to be offended, and its uncool to be offended.
    Definitely.

    Personally, given that which is done cannot be undone I always err on the conservative side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    That sounded correct at first, from a theoretical POV (I would have said the same thing)... then I started thinking and realized that I know many IxFJs and even some INFPs with dark-humor/sardonic qualities. They tend to be a little happier if they've had happy lives, but if they've had to deal with some hard things, they can develop a very cutting, very cynical and morbid/pessimistic humor sense.
    I consider myself an INFP who's lived a happy life. Sure teens sucked a little, but I have a great family, feel content with life etc. Still, I love the morbid and the disturbed and have problems with separating the two. So I normally play it safe unless I know my audience well.

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    Any questions?
    Morbid, disturbing, absurd, offensive or all at once? (Don't click the link if you're easily offended people. No blood and gore, but it's still "wrong". (One of the naked running children of 'nam , holding hands with Ronald McD and Mickey.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carebear View Post
    I consider myself an INFP who's lived a happy life. Sure teens sucked a little, but I have a great family, feel content with life etc. Still, I love the morbid and the disturbed and have problems with separating the two. So I normally play it safe unless I know my audience well.
    As I was reading this, suddenly "Edward Scissorhands" popped into mind as something dark, a bit morbid and dangerous, a bit cynical of the average human being, yet still with that "INFP" feel to it due to the whimsy and warmth. (As I think that is Burton's type anyway. And we've had the Johnny Depp discussions.)

    Morbid, disturbing, absurd, offensive or all at once? (Don't click the link if you're easily offended people. No blood and gore, but it's still "wrong". (One of the naked running children of 'nam , holding hands with Ronald McD and Mickey.)
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    I'm appalled...

    ... that you missed an opportunity to include that creepy "Burger King" guy. (He freaks me out.)
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