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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    As I was reading this, suddenly "Edward Scissorhands" popped into mind as something dark, a bit morbid and dangerous, a bit cynical of the average human being, yet still with that "INFP" feel to it due to the whimsy and warmth. (As I think that is Burton's type anyway. And we've had the Johnny Depp discussions.)
    My INFP daughter loves that kind of stuff. My whole family loved the movie Hogfather, which is, I suppose morbid, definitely dark.

    Life is dark. Hiding under the blankets and pretending there isn't a monster in your closet is okay sometimes, but there are times when it's just more fun to invite him to have some pizza and play scrabble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Anyway, I could only guess at the sort of humor that goes on in the private corners of the ER.
    I witnessed a talk between two morticians waiting outside a funeral. They left me shocked. I do see where they're coming from though, and don't think it makes them any less healthy than other people. When one of their loved ones passes away, they'll not even think of such jokes, but back on work they'll revert back to their coping mechanism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    And I think you still need to distinguish among the motivations of the people who laugh at it.
    Yes, that's what I'm trying to get people to tease out right now. I don't think Carebear is cruel if he finds humor in that picture because he doesn't seem like that type of person. Someone, somewhere out there, I don't know. How does one tell the difference between the two, especially over the internet?

    Also I'm not saying I don't "get" what makes it funny. But someone thinking that's a laugh riot just because? No, don't get it. Which brings us back to motivations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I think it's cathartic for some. You have to laugh, to get over it, or you'd bottle it up or cry instead.
    Of course. Laugh to keep from crying. I do that often enough. That's not morbid bordering or disturbing.

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    Monster!!!
    Perhaps. I think I like bitchy, mean girls humor more than morbid I'm going to kill my parents humor. Mainly because some people actually do it.

    And a good deal of when to take morbid humor seriously and when to accept it as a simple humor depends on if the person making the joke is likely to act. When tragedy occurs, a coworker snaps or there's a school shooting we here people saying, "well the said they were going to do it, but I thought they were joking." This is a response I wanted to give in Sub's thread about his child's school but you really don't know when to take someone seriously and when not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    My INFP daughter loves that kind of stuff. My whole family loved the movie Hogfather, which is, I suppose morbid, definitely dark.

    Life is dark. Hiding under the blankets and pretending there isn't a monster in your closet is okay sometimes, but there are times when it's just more fun to invite him to have some pizza and play scrabble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carebear View Post
    Also: The fact that I'm not the only one who finds the image funny tells me I'm not alone in my situation. Others find the political subtext funny too. IOW I'm not alone.
    Yes, you are right. There is also a large group of people that are currently in the penal system. I hope that all of you find the help that you so desperately need.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carebear View Post
    Morbid, disturbing, absurd, offensive or all at once? (Don't click the link if you're easily offended people. No blood and gore, but it's still "wrong". (One of the naked running children of 'nam , holding hands with Ronald McD and Mickey.)
    http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/feeling5.jpg
    I don't think it's funny, but the political commentary is eloquent in a way that no words could be.
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    Has anyone seen the movie Funny Games? There are two versions: one in English and the other in German.

    Is that the product of morbid humor or is it sick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carebear View Post
    Also: The fact that I'm not the only one who finds the image funny tells me I'm not alone in my situation. Others find the political subtext funny too. IOW I'm not alone.
    Actually, I didn't cover that part when I talked about the pic earlier... on some level I also picked up on it as an indictment of American commercialism linked with the American war machine. As soon as you said the word "political," all of that subtext flooded into my brain.

    The girl's being brutalized by insensitive money-grubbing corporations (representative of American big business... and not even GOOD business necessarily, just the sort that lives off the culture's foibles and sentimentalism) and basically being told that she's okay, that her life hasn't been destroyed, that she hasn't been gutted and left for dead... because MickeyM and MickeyD are both around to hold her hand and make everything better.

    The horror of what she is going through is what fuels the venom directed at her abusers.. the ones pretending they're doing her a favor and that nothing's wrong.

    So again, it's also sarcastic social commentary about American corporate politics.

    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Has anyone seen the movie Funny Games? There are two versions: one in English and the other in German. Is that the product of morbid humor or is it sick?
    It got interesting reviews (it's a remake of another movie, by the SAME director... weird... to remake your own movie? But he wanted to port it to a different audience) and so I wanted to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Yes, that's what I'm trying to get people to tease out right now. I don't think Carebear is cruel if he finds humor in that picture because he doesn't seem like that type of person. Someone, somewhere out there, I don't know. How does one tell the difference between the two, especially over the internet?
    By trying to read between the lines, confront and ask and a dash of guesswork. For instance you've figured out that I'm not the type of person, even if you stated above that people who find it funny are "sick and twisted".

    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Also I'm not saying I don't "get" what makes it funny. But someone thinking that's a laugh riot just because? No, don't get it. Which brings us back to motivations.
    I'm guessing you "get" it then, but still not really get it. It might be your views and experiences are not set up right for the joke. Perhaps it'd be funnier if the joke was related to Saddam instead of US foreign policy. Or the misfortune of a sexual predator or a psychopath. Or something completely different you feel strongly about. Or maybe the type of joke just happens to fall down the wrong side of the balance for you, so you get too offended to find it funny, while some others find it too funny to be offended. It's never easy to tell exactly why humor works the way it works, but who we are, the experiences we have and things like type, nationality etc play an important part.

    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Perhaps. I think I like bitchy, mean girls humor more than morbid I'm going to kill my parents humor. Mainly because some people actually do it.
    Aren't you aware that some people actually turn into bitchy, mean girls as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    And a good deal of when to take morbid humor seriously and when to accept it as a simple humor depends on if the person making the joke is likely to act. When tragedy occurs, a coworker snaps or there's a school shooting we here people saying, "well the said they were going to do it, but I thought they were joking." This is a response I wanted to give in Sub's thread about his child's school but you really don't know when to take someone seriously and when not to.
    Not sure I agree. I take the humor for humor and judge it based on the quality of the joke. When people say "we thought he were joking" it's normally when someone has threatened to do something concrete, not when posting morbid internet images or jokes. A threat about going on a rampage is a poor joke, and would make me fear the person posting it was serious, but that's no reason to stop telling funny morbid jokes.

    I guess it could all be a matter of differences between Fi/Ti and Fe/Te. When the first pair is challenged, they don't call for any action. Not so with Fe/Te.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Actually, I didn't cover that part when I talked about the pic earlier... on some level I also picked up on it as an indictment of American commercialism linked with the American war machine. As soon as you said the word "political," all of that subtext flooded into my brain.

    The girl's being brutalized by insensitive money-grubbing corporations (representative of American big business... and not even GOOD business necessarily, just the sort that lives off the culture's foibles and sentimentalism) and basically being told that she's okay, that her life hasn't been destroyed, that she hasn't been gutted and left for dead... because MickeyM and MickeyD are both around to hold her hand and make everything better.

    The horror of what she is going through is what fuels the venom directed at her abusers.. the ones pretending they're doing her a favor and that nothing's wrong.

    So again, it's also sarcastic social commentary about American corporate politics.
    Excellently explained. Yes, that's about it. If you don't agree with the view of the subtext, you probably won't find it funny no matter how much you get the joke. It's created as an all-or-nothing joke, I guess. Either it hits home or it misses completely, and in the latter case it will seem cruel to use such heavy ammunition.
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