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    Their ability to manipulate.
    Their ability to improvise and come up with plans in a split second.
    Their ability stay ahead of the enemy
    Their ability to know what the opponent is thinking and be like 'if i do that, they will do this so i have to do this' kinda thing.

    Deductive Reasoning? Inductive Reasoning? Lateral thinking?
    What is the name to describe each of these characteristics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmatic View Post
    Their ability to manipulate.
    Rationally using the connection between their source of power and the environment to acheive maximum benefit; not sure if there's a name for it; Te, and to a lesser extent Fe.

    Their ability to improvise and come up with plans in a split second.
    Quick and adaptable thinking, 'thinking on your feet'; Ti, Se, or Te I suppose.

    Their ability stay ahead of the enemy
    Long term conceptual thinking; Ni.

    Their ability to know what the opponent is thinking and be like 'if i do that, they will do this so i have to do this' kinda thing.
    Conceptual thought + Deductive reasoning; Ni/Te.

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    Many functions can be assigned for these tasks. I think these ones would perform better:
    Their ability to manipulate.
    Fe. Te might convince, but the finest persuasion is done with Fe, no doubt. Te is authoritarian and tends to trigger resistance, OTOH, Fe is subtle and catches people off guard.
    Their ability to improvise and come up with plans in a split second.
    Se for optimal in-the-moment awareness and Ti to quickly analyze the viability of the plan.
    Their ability stay ahead of the enemy
    Ni. I don't know how to explain, it's a bit vague.
    Their ability to know what the opponent is thinking and be like 'if i do that, they will do this so i have to do this' kinda thing.
    Ne to project multiple scenarios and solutions and Ti to filter everything. Te+Ni may do it faster but Ne+Ti is more likely to get the all possibilities covered.
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    Ni. I don't know how to explain, it's a bit vague.
    You know when an enemy makes a plan and everything looks bad for the hero, but in actuality it's all according to the hero's plan.

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    It is hard to properly type Light and Michael Westen, their abilities are too vast to be true.
    I could make a case for Light being both INFJ and INTJ and for Michael Westen being both ISTJ and ISTP.
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    Light is nothing but an INTJ. He's all Fi. Yes, he wants to create a better world for everyone, but he's still the sole judge of who's good and who's evil, according to his own moral standards. The reformation of society is an enneagram 1 thing.

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    You know when an enemy makes a plan and everything looks bad for the hero, but in actuality it's all according to the hero's plan.
    The explanation was actually good, I just don't know how to justify it properly.
    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    Light is nothing but an INTJ. He's all Fi. Yes, he wants to create a better world for everyone, but he's still the sole judge of who's good and who's evil, according to his own moral standards. The reformation of society is an enneagram 1 thing.
    I can see an INFJ gone bad doing the same thing easily.
    His emotions are used in a very deliberated way. He is hardly ever blunt. Plus he uses a lot of Fe in his manipulations, whereas Fi and Te would be much weaker tools. Imo, ''Light'' is more F-oriented and ''Kira'' is more T-oriented, but they both use Fe/Te.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    The explanation was actually good, I just don't know how to justify it properly.

    I can see an INFJ gone bad doing the same thing easily.
    His emotions are used in a very deliberated way. He is hardly ever blunt. Plus he uses a lot of Fe in his manipulations, whereas Fi and Te would be much weaker tools. Imo, ''Light'' is more F-oriented and ''Kira'' is more T-oriented, but they both use Fe/Te.
    Light's moral values are not chosen from an external standard; he's not aspiring to create a "community" where everyone shares the values, it's not an "us against them"-mentality Fe-manipulators such as Hitler used. He is imposing HIS rules on everyone else according to HIS standards and HE is the judge of who's good and who's not. And manipulation is not solely a Fe thing you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    Light's moral values are not chosen from an external standard;he's not aspiring to create a "community" where everyone shares the values. He is imposing HIS rules on everyone else according to HIS standards and HE is the judge of who's good and who's not.
    Most people agreed that he was making the world a better place. That's what really makes him proud of his actions. In the end, he has an external standard.
    You are taking a healthy Fe as parameter, whereas Fe combined with narcissism is tricky. The means may cease to be a concern.
    And manipulation is not solely a Fe thing you know.
    Right, can also be Te, but the effectiveness of a logical persuasion is weak. Fi isn't meant to influence, and therefore it performs poorly.
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