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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Either way - with either score - would indicate NPD, though it's something that shouldn't really be self-diagnosed by an on-line test.

    I remember being frightened at one point that I had BPD, but I have been reasurred by multiple therapists that I do not have this disorder at all. Having abandonment issues =/= BPD...sometimes people think they have a certain thing when they read about it on-line, but it's important to have it diagnosed.
    I don't particularly care one way or the other. that being said, I think anyone with anyone with high confidence and high self esteem would probably score much high than 15 on this test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    That's because you rated yourself.

    Isn't it obvious? Seriously...

    you make a thread thinking that NPD is cool, then you take a test which confirms you have a cool disorder.


    Awesome.

    And if the test would have been reliable at all, nobody would have needed a doctor's diagnosis.
    I think the mindset that would cause someone to think NPD is "cool" would be indicative of some kind of problem though...I can't say that I think ANY of the personality disorders are "cool."

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    Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a mental illness while narcissistic personality is simply a personality.

    And while those with Narcissistic Personality Disorder lead disordered lives, those with a narcissistic personality are often quite successful, like CEOs.

    I think the problem is that Narcissistic Personality Disorder and narcissistic personality are almost the same words and so they are easily confused.

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    I guess it's because online descriptions can't match the real thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a mental illness while narcissistic personality is simply a personality.

    And while those with Narcissistic Personality Disorder lead disordered lives, those with a narcissistic personality are often quite successful, like CEOs.

    I think the problem is that Narcissistic Personality Disorder and narcissistic personality are almost the same words and so they are easily confused.
    you make a wonderful distinction
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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    I guess it's because online descriptions can't match the real thing
    Well I think it's partly because one of the "popular" personality disorder tests floating around the Internet says that just about everyone has symptoms of 1-3 personality disorders, including ones they actually would not meet the criteria for at all...for example, someone with pagan beliefs or other beliefs in the supernatural might come out with a schizotypal result...except that nothing else about them would point to schizotypal, they have no problem with social adjustment, relationships, or paranoia, etc.

    In my case I just kept focusing on the abandonment variable because of childhood experience, and emotional sensitivity. However, if I'd actually understood that people with BPD have "chronic feelings of emptiness" and don't have a stable sense of self - meaning their values and interests can change often - then I would have realized that I was not even a candidate. Not to mention that I'm inclined to seek help and work to overcome any issues I might have, and people with BPD are much less likely to do this, and often have to be forced into treatment, or even if going into treatment voluntarily they'll leave abruptly or not do the self-management work it requires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    A narcissist benefits from their narcissism only to the degree that they can keep people at arm's length. People tend to have an exceptionally positive first impression of narcissists, but intimacy generally brings a very low opinion of narcissists. So it's only their advantage where they can avoid that.

    A narcissist's behavior is no good for anyone else. Narcissists manipulate others for gain at their expense, plain and simple. The narcissist's gain is typically everyone else's loss. And when two narcissists are together, it's like a slugging match. They are completely in conflict with each other, and lack any particular manipulative advantage over each other, so it's just a protracted (can costly) battle of will.
    I have noticed that narcissists lack the ability to be intimate, but for some strange reason they seem to be overwhelmingly attracted to those who can be intimate. I never understood this. Personally, I'd rather see two narcissists together. things seem more balanced then. It's more of a mismatch for a narcissist to be with a non-narcissist because the only person who is going to gain from that relationship is the narcissist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a mental illness while narcissistic personality is simply a personality.

    And while those with Narcissistic Personality Disorder lead disordered lives, those with a narcissistic personality are often quite successful, like CEOs.

    I think the problem is that Narcissistic Personality Disorder and narcissistic personality are almost the same words and so they are easily confused.
    Why does disorder always come after Narcissistic Personality when I google it then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    Why does disorder always come after Narcissistic Personality when I google it then?
    I sometimes think people try to differentiate between being a narcissist and having NPD is because they want to justify their horrifying, unethical behavior somehow.

    I mean, COME ON, what better way to avoid treatment for a personality disorder than saying "I'm okay and successful! Everyone else has the problem!" as they step on an orphan and spit on an old lady on their way to the office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I have noticed that narcissists lack the ability to be intimate, but for some strange reason they seem to be overwhelmingly attracted to those who can be intimate. I never understood this. Personally, I'd rather see two narcissists together. things seem more balanced then. It's more of a mismatch for a narcissist to be with a non-narcissist because the only person who is going to gain from that relationship is the narcissist.
    They pair up with a non-narcissist because they wouldn't be able to blatantly abuse another narcissist in the same satisfying manner.

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