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    Default MBTI and Personality Disorders

    Does anyone here have a diagnosis of a 'personality disorder'?

    If so how does this impact on your type? (e.g. are you a 'borderline' type, do you feel your type changes, etc)

    Also for those of you who do not have a personality disorder or know much about them Wiki says: 'behavioral patterns in personality disorders are typically associated with severe disturbances in the behavioral tendencies of an individual, usually involving several areas of the personality and are nearly always associated with considerable personal and social disruption'

    I'm interested what people might say about this because I have a diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder (though personally I reckon my mood is just erratic and that's the label they've chosen to stick on me) and I'm finding typing myself very difficult. I initially thought I was INTJ/INFJ, then INTP/INFP. I've scored as all of these. I'm not sure whether this is because my 'personality disorder' impacts on my values and how I perceive myself, or whether I'm just a borderline type.

    It makes sense that, if personality disorders are to be considered as real, that they will effect the typing of individuals who have them. What does everyone think?

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    in case you are interested:



    and if you dont know how to read that, numbers with one * mean correlation between two and numbers with ** are clear even more valid correlations. -number is the first letter on scale and without - is the second. for example antisocial correlations are to NTP scales and too little/no correlation to I/E scale
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    A Personality Disorder is a mental illness.

    And MBTI has no more truth value than astrology.

    So the correlations between Personality Disorders and MBTI are fanciful.

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    You know, even after all this time your post is like a jack-in-the-box that pops its head up with:

    And MBTI has no more truth value than astrology.
    And MBTI has no more truth value than astrology.
    And MBTI has no more truth value than astrology.
    It still cracks me up. Lol.

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    What I do know is that they are actually going to remove some of the Personality Disorders from the next DSM. Does anyone know which ones?

    I wonder which ones those will be, I wonder if they're throwing Schizotypal in with schizophrenia, or what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pand0ra View Post
    Does anyone here have a diagnosis of a 'personality disorder'?

    If so how does this impact on your type? (e.g. are you a 'borderline' type, do you feel your type changes, etc)

    Also for those of you who do not have a personality disorder or know much about them Wiki says: 'behavioral patterns in personality disorders are typically associated with severe disturbances in the behavioral tendencies of an individual, usually involving several areas of the personality and are nearly always associated with considerable personal and social disruption'

    I'm interested what people might say about this because I have a diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder (though personally I reckon my mood is just erratic and that's the label they've chosen to stick on me) and I'm finding typing myself very difficult. I initially thought I was INTJ/INFJ, then INTP/INFP. I've scored as all of these. I'm not sure whether this is because my 'personality disorder' impacts on my values and how I perceive myself, or whether I'm just a borderline type.

    It makes sense that, if personality disorders are to be considered as real, that they will effect the typing of individuals who have them. What does everyone think?
    I know that problems get classified as a disorder if the negative behavior pattern prevents you from living your day to day life. For instance, I hate flying. The plane shifts slightly and my mind jumps to it crashing and splat. However, I can still white knuckle a plane ride, and I don't avoid them. (I don't go out of my way for them either... hehe.)

    BPD is kind of a hefty one for them to throw at you. I am curious as to how this got determined. Did you take the MMPI? Or was it during counseling?

    If you are under a lot of stress, that could really be affecting you and your ability to type. I know that when I am super stressed I get very critical and nitpicky, which is the opposite of how I normally roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    A Personality Disorder is a mental illness.

    And MBTI has no more truth value than astrology.

    So the correlations between Personality Disorders and MBTI are fanciful.
    personality disorder isnt a mental illness.

    MBTI has more truth value than astrology.

    you do know that jung based his typology quite strongly on examining unhealthy and mentally ill people when working in a field of clinical psychiatry? so its pretty much based on seeing the traits that can be wrong in unhealthy people, but are functioning normally in healthy people. this gives pretty good basis for the theory to work also when dealing with unhealthy people. and as that table shows you can find correlations between MBTI and personality disorders
    http://www.uccs.edu/~faculty/dsegal/...ures-JPT-2.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    personality disorder isnt a mental illness.

    MBTI has more truth value than astrology.
    You keep on contradicting me. This suggests you are looking for a fight. But what would you gain by fighting me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    you do know that jung based his typology quite strongly on examining unhealthy and mentally ill people when working in a field of clinical psychiatry? so its pretty much based on seeing the traits that can be wrong in unhealthy people, but are functioning normally in healthy people. this gives pretty good basis for the theory to work also when dealing with unhealthy people. and as that table shows you can find correlations between MBTI and personality disorders
    http://www.uccs.edu/~faculty/dsegal/...ures-JPT-2.pdf
    MBTI was plagiarised by Mrs Briggs and her daughter Mrs Myers from the book, "Personality Types", written by Carl Jung.

    And Carl Jung himself said that his book was based on no empirical evidence.

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