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    Some psychologists (not that they have claim to what intelligence is, since it's a word/meme, and no one has ownership) divide intelligence into these categories: Bodily-Kinesthetic; Interpersonal, Verbal-Linguistic, Logical-Mathematical, Naturalistic, Intrapersonal, Spatial, Musical, and even Spiritual, Existential, and Moral. You could correlate the intuition-function to some of these, but not all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Some psychologists (not that they have claim to what intelligence is, since it's a word/meme, and no one has ownership) divide intelligence into these categories: Bodily-Kinesthetic; Interpersonal, Verbal-Linguistic, Logical-Mathematical, Naturalistic, Intrapersonal, Spatial, Musical, and even Spiritual, Existential, and Moral. You could correlate the intuition-function to some of these, but not all.
    That sounds reasonable to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    I wouldn't really say that intelligence is owned by the intuitive function. Thinking outside the box is one aspect of intelligence, but there's a lot more. Your definition seems a bit self-serving, no, Dissonance?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    I agree with this.

    Thinking outside the box helped with inventions and whatnot, but I can't quite commit to the notion that it is necessary to intelligence. Say intelligence is making the right decision at the right time. Sensors surely can be included into this group.
    Attention to detail and memory recall are also aspects of intelligence...and they are examples of S forms of intelligence.

    And thinking outside of the box is one form of intelligence that an IQ test does not measure. If anything, IQ tests simply measure your ability to think inside their box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    And thinking outside of the box is one form of intelligence that an IQ test does not measure. If anything, IQ tests simply measure your ability to think inside their box.
    True. For example, I hate the type of questions where they give you several words, and you have to find the one that "doesn't belong". I can usually make a case for every single one of them: you just need to change the parameters for belonging. So all those questions actually test is whether you can guess which parameters the test-makers want you to use: what does that have to do with intelligence ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    i think intelligence REQUIRES the ability to think outside the box. that's a premise. that's not the full definition, but it's REQUIRED in my definition.

    if you disagree with that, come up with a different definition. otherwise, you're wrong.
    Thinking outside the box is a P thing, not an N thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering View Post
    True. For example, I hate the type of questions where they give you several words, and you have to find the one that "doesn't belong". I can usually make a case for every single one of them: you just need to change the parameters for belonging. So all those questions actually test is whether you can guess which parameters the test-makers want you to use: what does that have to do with intelligence ??
    That's exactly how I am. I can see multiple angles that are logical, but the test only considers one of them logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Thinking outside the box is a P thing, not an N thing.

    N and P are the same in the following respects

    non-linear
    spontaneous
    ever changing
    seeing possibilities, albeit indecisive

    S and J are similar in regards to being

    linear
    responsible
    action orientated, ergo decisive

    it is a shame that intellect is being put upon a platform to be bludgeoned,
    with the very same weapons in which its being accused
    Bias

    Though mentioned before,
    Intelligence is both
    Sure, one must be able to conduct thoughts outside of the box,
    but one most also know when he/she is being mired in thought,
    and in want of action
    let alone knowing how to implement the brainstorm into something
    1. palpable
    2. functional
    3. beneficial, perhaps to other parties

    but all in all
    true intellect cannot be defined or confined by us idiots who try to label it
    for it is simple and intricate
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Some psychologists (not that they have claim to what intelligence is, since it's a word/meme, and no one has ownership) divide intelligence into these categories: Bodily-Kinesthetic; Interpersonal, Verbal-Linguistic, Logical-Mathematical, Naturalistic, Intrapersonal, Spatial, Musical, and even Spiritual, Existential, and Moral. You could correlate the intuition-function to some of these, but not all.
    *whispers*

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    I just went on an intuitive rant,
    and this was here
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    But N spontaneity is more based on spontaneous insight (an "a-ha" moment), so it's not the way most people think of spontaneous. P spontaneity is based on lifestyle preferences -- so they are more open-minded and willing to change regardless of S or N preference -- that's the more typical definition of spontaneous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    But N spontaneity is more based on spontaneous insight (an "a-ha" moment), so it's not the way most people think of spontaneous. P spontaneity is based on lifestyle preferences -- so they are more open-minded and willing to change regardless of S or N preference -- that's the more typical definition of spontaneous.
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