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    `~~Philosoflying~~` SillySapienne's Avatar
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    That, or to whip your proverbial "cocks" out.
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    'Cause you can't handle me...

    "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." - David Stevens

    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanan View Post
    The tests (not all of which are graphical) aren't particularly about "recall" but recognition. It was an effort to exclude apptitude to arrive at "pure" intelligence... again to see and apply patterns making learning exponential.

    The farmer who's never done anything but plow the field and speak in poor grammar may score highly on an IQ test because nothing is required except recognizing patterns. He's probably never done anything involved with the mentioned apptitudes. He may use his intelligence in learning to fix his wife's oven and apply it elsewhere to farm machinery never having to actually learn how to fix a particular machine. Simplistic I know but happens every day with highly intelligent people who never fit with an apptitude they're being judged by.
    ah, but the type of questions found on most IQ tests are an aptitude themselves

    a typical question:

    "Which word of four letters can be added to the front of the following words to create other English words?"

    CARD BOX CODE BAG HASTE

    a mailman would have a much easier time answering this question than your farmer

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    That, or to whip your proverbial "cocks" out.
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    Why? They're both equally capable of recognizing that all except haste are nouns.

    Unless they're uneducated. IQ isn't the only way of figuring intelligence though, and I don't see why it's being fought over here.

    Actually, haste is a noun... huh. Well it's not something that can be touched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayscale View Post
    ah, but the type of questions found on most IQ tests are an aptitude themselves

    a typical question:

    "Which word of four letters can be added to the front of the following words to create other English words?"

    CARD BOX CODE BAG HASTE

    a mailman would have a much easier time answering this question than your farmer
    You know that's going back to where PCness in this area started... ghetto slang and tests.
    Thus the graphical version to cut out all the BS. So let's just eliminate the idea of intelligence altogether... everyone equal in every way... no yardsticks... who looses? Who wins?

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    Lovely... back later... have to go apply my "intelligence" or lack of it to getting some bills paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    ... and... you think that's what I'm doing?
    yes, yes you are, and only you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Seanan View Post
    You know that's going back to where PCness in this area started... ghetto slang and tests.
    Thus the graphical version to cut out all the BS. So let's just eliminate the idea of intelligence altogether... everyone equal in every way... no yardsticks... who looses? Who wins?
    only reality can tell for sure

    ultimately, i dont see a point in quantifying intelligence, so i wouldnt waste time on an in-depth analysis of what smarts really look like, but i can easily say that things like IQ tests and education are a shallow example

    time for me to bow out of this discussion to take a much needed nap... my oh-so-smart self stayed up very late last night
    Last edited by Grayscale; 04-02-2008 at 01:09 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Why don't we all measure our heads and compare?

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    Moved 74 posts on intelligence from Sensor Bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayscale View Post
    yes, yes you are, and only you!
    Nice. Well when you mature as a type analyst you'll eventually see what I'm talking about and realize that ol' Nocapszy was not using the four letter type code to make his point.
    we fukin won boys

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