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    Lex Parsimoniae Xander's Avatar
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    What about those of us who are contextual people who react to the person as they project themselves and will now react to the person as an untrustworthy person?

    It also fails on the lines of the actor needing to be up to the task. Can they convince people that they are an XXXX without having to state it? If not then the test is odd to say the least.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    I have't waded through all the responses, but I have a couple of questions.

    Where do you see yourself in 10 years?

    Where do you see yourself in 6 years?

    Where do you see yourself in 5 minutes?

    Which question was the easiest for you to answer?

    Truthfully while I prefer iNutatives over Sensors, (and T's typically over Feelers) I'm an equal opportunity disliker of many people regardless of their type. What I mean is I like you no matter what you're type is.
    Time is a delicate mistress.

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    The bias, sometimes, is within he who sees it, because he is at war with himself.

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    I've arrived at the same conclusions as you Mycroft and have for quite some time now. The questions for me is how much of the conspiracy theory is residual from INTPc? How much is merely rumor? How much is actual bias? How much is it people who just like to stir up shit? If you have a problem with an S (who btw populate the majority of the world duh) does that make you an S-hater? The "examples" given so far have been pretty lame. I remember when this site opened how many were fiercely adamant (myself included) about this forum being welcoming to Sensors. I think we've continued to welcome them with open arms. There is no perfect environment for where groups of people are! I know that we have lists of the S-types here. I really think that if we need to improve the environment and they feel as though N's are hostile they should step forward and show us what needs to be done, specifically! I don't respect the rumor/implications that MBTIc is sensor hating. I left blatant bias against my own type to come here, learn and have fun. I'm an NF and stereotypical of my type creating a harmonious environment is what I'm about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lookin4theBestNU View Post
    I don't respect the rumor/implications that MBTIc is sensor hating.
    Let's keep things into perspective:

    1- Nobody mentioned hate, only bias.

    2- It was never a matter of whether the forum itself is welcoming or not to Sensors (it is), it's more a matter of individual iNtuitives expressing a bias against Sensors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering View Post
    Let's keep things into perspective:

    1- Nobody mentioned hate, only bias.

    2- It was never a matter of whether the forum itself is welcoming or not to Sensors (it is), it's more a matter of individual iNtuitives expressing a bias against Sensors.
    There's a difference, also, between bias and calling a spade a spade. If someone in my home talked to me the way I've been talked to by "SJs" here, they would be escorted to the door and told never to return... of course I would be concerned about getting decked on the way. Now, how long do you think it will take, being treated that way by those who do have their type on their profile, before I don't risk posting on a thread they're on? Is that bias? No, I don't think so... its experience and/or conditioning by actual events. And its just plain smart to avoid those types... well unless you actuallly enjoy that kind of venemous behavior.

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    Sensors do have a disability, Intuitives. They speak plainly (often) and often we don't. That only makes them less capable at understanding the ink blot way of thinking not being stupid, though perception wise the two are sometimes difficult to differentiate.

    Personally I've found that some of the most irritating stick in the muds have been intuitives (often 5s, damn their retracting sensibilities :steam: ).

    Myopia, it seems, affects us all equally.

    I do agree though with Mycroft. If I wanted to sign up for sermons there are these large, cold out of date buildings where some old camp guy can drone on at me for hours about how bad I am but how I don't have to do anything about it, I come here to talk to other's who like to think too much. That's all.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    This board has made some effort to be inclusive of all types (being MBTIcentral and all). Those who have a history on the boards that preceded it know the bias against Sensors well. I think some have made efforts to hold that at bay from the beginning of the site and so it is less of an issue here? If that somehow is offensive... oh well, can't please everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    This board has made some effort to be inclusive of all types (being MBTIcentral and all). Those who have a history on the boards that preceded it know the bias against Sensors well. I think some have made efforts to hold that at bay from the beginning of the site and so it is less of an issue here? If that somehow is offensive... oh well, can't please everyone.
    I think it's more a nod towards the idea that we should be as vigilant when protecting against positive discrimination as we are negative, to be truly balanced and fair.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    I know that I respond differently to people based on my perception on how the person will react.
    Same here. But I wouldn't necessarily call it bias: it could be just tailoring. I see a difference between the two.

    Example:
    - Not giving only Feeling-based arguments when discussing with, say, an INTP, is tailoring. I know those are not the arguments that are likely to carry the most weight with them, so I try and find additional arguments that will speak to them more.
    - Expecting an INTP not to understand or appreciate a Feeling-based argument is bias. Some do, some don't, and INTPs have their bad hair days like everyone else. Even if experience tells me that there are arguments they are not very receptive to in general, I can never assume that a particular individual is unable to understand a particular argument.

    See what I mean?

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