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    Okay, I know the discussion has moved on well past this point, but:

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    Hence why typing people based entirely on what they post here is not really any use at all. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Seanan View Post
    Is the implication that most here are being deceptive in their posts?
    Not at all. I meant to say that you can only get a very limited view of one's true personality from what they choose to display on a forum like this - some introverts appear very social and extraverted, some feelers appear very analytical and like thinkers, and so on and vice versa.

    It's a bit like typing celebrities - you're using a very narrow view in order to try and work out what the whole picture looks like. A narrow view that they've chosen to display to the world.

    And (like in writing: every piece of writing is subjective, even the most analytical), when someone makes a choice to show or not show something about themselves, then their 'personality', as it comes across to us, is altered somewhat from the truth.

    If you want to call that deception, then I suppose yes, everyone is being deceptive. They have no choice.

    Anyway, even if someone is very honest and open on these forums, it is still very difficult to truly determine their true type from that alone. If someone, like whatever, is deliberately exaggerating or filtering various parts of their personalities, then typing someone accurately would be next to impossible. You might have your suspicions, but nobody but the person themselves could really say for certain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticangel02 View Post
    Anyway, even if someone is very honest and open on these forums, it is still very difficult to truly determine their true type from that alone. If someone, like whatever, is deliberately exaggerating or filtering various parts of their personalities, then typing someone accurately would be next to impossible. You might have your suspicions, but nobody but the person themselves could really say for certain.
    I think I'm seeing that. It is understandable but makes me sad actually. Yes, we all choose what to divulge for various reasons but it is sad when one thinks about altering their approach, etc., that would indicate type when posting. Other than the experiment you refer to, (and I wonder about that actually) I just can't fathom the reasons anyone would want to present as another type. It smacks of:: 1) toying with others or 2) major insecurity... or both. I don't think about type at all when I post. I'm thinking about the subject I'm replying to and not presentation as any particular type. He##, I don't even know the types very well... that's why I'm here. But then, authenticity and, consequent, trust/mistrust are major issues with me. Its something I strive for irl and am comfortable only with like-minded people. Yes, I'm dealing with a major issue right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanan View Post
    I think I'm seeing that. It is understandable but makes me sad actually. Yes, we all choose what to divulge for various reasons but it is sad when one thinks about altering their approach, etc., that would indicate type when posting. Other than the experiment you refer to, (and I wonder about that actually) I just can't fathom the reasons anyone would want to present as another type. It smacks of:: 1) toying with others or 2) major insecurity... or both. I don't think about type at all when I post. I'm thinking about the subject I'm replying to and not presentation as any particular type. He##, I don't even know the types very well... that's why I'm here. But then, authenticity and, consequent, trust/mistrust are major issues with me. Its something I strive for irl and am comfortable only with like-minded people. Yes, I'm dealing with a major issue right now.
    Yeah. I believe the vast majority of people on this forum are who they say they are, and participate here without any deliberate effort to conceal or alter themselves or their type, so please don't start thinking that everyone here is being deliberately deceptive!

    In this case it was just Whatever deciding to make a point, and she chose to do it this way. And yes, she was being deceptive, but certainly not in a way that was meant to be hurtful or mean-spirited.

    And anyway, I find that everyone comes here for a different reason - some people want to exclusively learn about types and how they manifest and treat it in a fairly scientific manner, wheras others come to socialise and get to know the people and perhaps learn a bit about different personalities in the meantime. Some just want a bit of intelligent discussion on a wide range of topics. Many others are somewhere in between.

    So... I don't even know what point I'm trying to make. Perhaps something along the lines of: don't worry too much about other people, and what they may or may not be doing. Take out of the forums what you want to take out of them, whatever that may happen to be. That's what they're here for!
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    Moved ass-load of posts on intelligence to S intelligence vs. N intelligence. Trying to keep this thread more about bias and this site, rather than the great S vs. N debate.

    Moved some posts about pure_mercury's type over to here.

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    I didn't read this whole thread, so maybe this has already been stated, but...

    The very fact that there's even a thread (indicating a suspicion) of this makes me sick to my rational and intuitive stomach. Could someone be missing the entire point of the MBTI?

    In a twist of extreme irony, the likely cause for this is that some N's are not seeing the whole picture.

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    What are you saying Javo? I am not catching on..

    Edit: Oh.. thanks Javo. I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    I didn't read this whole thread, so maybe this has already been stated, but...

    The very fact that there's even a thread (indicating a suspicion) of this makes me sick to my rational and intuitive stomach. Could someone be missing the entire point of the MBTI?

    In a twist of extreme irony, the likely cause for this is that some N's are not seeing the whole picture.
    Good point. Maybe this thread should be retitled: N-arcissism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Good point. Maybe this thread should be retitled: N-arcissism.


    Are you going to do it?

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    Fundamental Nature of the MBTI

    good article on the issue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliriousDisposition View Post


    Are you going to do it?
    Heh. Nah. Too bratty.

    The problem, as I see it, isn't so much in thinking that some types are better at some tasks than others. The purpose of MBTI was to sort out people's talents and gifts. The question is what you do with those disparities. Do you get tangled in a web of judgments, or do you just accept people's differences and appreciate them?

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