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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    Okay, help us Ts out. From an INTP perspective, I may feel things internally, but I'm usually detached from my emotions, and they generally don't get taken into account when I argue or make a decision. I may rely on my intuition, or my "gut" feeling about something, but it won't necessarily be a "feeling" as I suspect F people would feel them. If I feel something strongly, I always try to take a step back so my logic won't get clouded by my subjective feelings.

    So here's what I want to know (inspired by the Mock Emotions thread):

    1) When you talk about feelings/emotions, how do you experience them?
    2) Do you always go on your feelings? Do you feel that your emotions are "trustworthy?" Do you ever feel like your view of a situation is clouded by your personal feelings?
    3) How does the feeling translate into action?
    4) Anything else you feel like sharing. I'm just a T, so I'm not even sure how to word all this in F language.

    You don't have to answer each individual question, as I probably repeated myself. Just give us an idea of what it's like to be F in this crazy world.
    For me it's sort of the opposite, I am always striving to make sure I'm not toooo matter of fact (hurting people's confidence or offending them--but that's not to say I won't fervently argue something I feel strongly about).

    "To be an F in this crazy world" is priceless (helps navigate the craziness in a way and make sense of some of it), while equally painful and draining No, but seriously, probably the hardest thing if we're talking about bad aspects of it, is also worrying that someone is not going to take you seriously and/or value whatever you're saying (especially if it's something more logic-based), which I find happens frequently.

    I don't necessarily talk about feelings/emotions a whole lot. But I do experience them very deeply, in a way that transcends words (which is probably, why I don't directly talk about them much and doing so can be very hard for me, despite my F).

    I don't always make decisions or actions based on my feelings (sometimes employ strict logic), but mostly do go on feelings in the end in the sense that I generally won't or will do something based off of how it will make me feel in doing it or after doing it (but that could be IxFJ--the thinking it through ahead of time employment of feeling?). And no, I don't feel like my view of anything is clouded by my personal feelings because a) I value myself and my actions based upon how they relate to my inner self and b) because I do try to be subjective in the sense that I see ALL sides of everything because of feeling (imagine how it would relate to anyone and everyone or anyone and everything) and c) because my view of a situation is wholly dependent upon how I feel about that situation, so my personal feelings are essential, rather than supplemental

    "I'm just a T, so I'm not even sure how to word all this in F language. " That's okay--I'm an F and don't really know how to word it either!

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    I'm an INTP. Nonetheless, sometimes I think I'm quite close to the F side. I wonder how my answers will stack up against others here.

    1) When you talk about feelings/emotions, how do you experience them?

    I never talk about my feelings. It's not as though I don't have them. Sometimes I have very strong emotions. I also care about other people's feelings, to the extent I'm able to understand them. I just don't consider them valid criteria for decision making, and they generally don't play a part in my thought processes.

    2) Do you always go on your feelings? Do you feel that your emotions are "trustworthy?" Do you ever feel like your view of a situation is clouded by your personal feelings?

    When I experience strong emotions, I always make sure to take a step back from them and analyze. No matter how I feel now,what will the most advantageous outcome be? What will work the best? Most importantly, what's true and what's false?

    3) How does the feeling translate into action?

    On occasions when my emotions win out, I have no idea how to control them and usually they end up causing a big problem. I act very irrationally and regret it later. When I go by what I feel I end up in a situation I regret.

    4) Anything else you feel like sharing. I'm just a T, so I'm not even sure how to word all this in F language.
    Noted. My girlfriend (a fellow INTP) and I were having this discussion yesterday so I googled possible related discussions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    1) When you talk about feelings/emotions, how do you experience them?
    2) Do you always go on your feelings? Do you feel that your emotions are "trustworthy?" Do you ever feel like your view of a situation is clouded by your personal feelings?
    3) How does the feeling translate into action?
    4) Anything else you feel like sharing. I'm just a T, so I'm not even sure how to word all this in F language.

    (1) It all depends on what I feel at the moment and even if the emotion is rightfully "mine".
    Love as an example: A bright shining sun that keeps on staying in the sky until my flesh is but nothing but coal left outside to be thrown around in the wind. Hate I haven't felt much of in my life. I think I've hated someone once and only for a brief period. (read 5 seconds). It felt as if I turned stone cold, every vein seemed to breath fire and ice at the same time and my mind was deadlocked in possibilities for a plan to drag that person down to the feeling I felt. As if I couldn't sit straight neither lie down and it felt like something that pulled me deep under life's existence.
    As Love and hate are concepts and not really in depth explicit emotions... I didn't wish to go deep into what I feel of every part. Might end up in too much text and I don't feel like it at the moment.

    In the beginning, I wasn't orderly setup and thought came before feel. As it did, I have done the most grave things in my time. From pushing someone to almost suicide to having others fall in love with the thought of me and been treated like shit. ARGH. I can't even understand how I could do such a thing. It was as if my thoughts didn't add value in anything. Just what matter could do with matter if presented perfectly in order.
    I felt shallow and hollow. And I even began feeling bored. So to the extent that I found several ways to kill myself... and tried. :P Silly reason. (Unhealthy xNFP)

    Well, uh.. 2?



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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
    see like, you were asking questions about feeling in a very logical way. the whole thing about me, or us, is that we really do just "listen to our hearts". i know a lot of times i just feel a certain way and i don't know why. i can usually figure it out if i want to and then it will make sense.
    Feelings are like an image.

    An image is real but has no intrinsic meaning of its own.

    You can demonstrate this by writing different texts under the image. And each text will give the image a different meaning.

    And so we can say that feelings just are. And it is only afterwards that we can ascribe meaning to feelings.

    But what is most interesting is that we can choose what meaning to give to any feeling. In other words, feeling and meaning are separate and independent.

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    This is a really interesting thread. What a cool idea!

    I was wondering (and maybe someone's brought this up already) if anybody here besides me thinks that, in a way, Ts are more emotional than Fs? Based on what (little) I've read here, it seems as if Fs really accept their emotions, and are very comfortable with them, and so don't really... I guess... react to them as much? Whereas Ts have a tendency to seem all-or-nothing emotionally... What do you guys think?
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    It seems pretty true EJCC.
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    EJCC - exactly
    Which is why i love thinking women
    They are so explosive - no matter the emotion
    to wit,
    when the feeling becomes so strong and is foreign enough for them not to be able to handle it......hell yeah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thursday View Post
    EJCC - exactly
    Which is why i love thinking women
    They are so explosive - no matter the emotion
    to wit,
    when the feeling becomes so strong and is foreign enough for them not to be able to handle it......hell yeah
    Spot on.
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    Do you guys always (try to) do the right things? Whatever that is in your world.

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