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    Mind game. Elfie wants to play.

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    Suppose you are a top criminal wanted globally. Third in the hierarchy in your crime cartel. Having masterminded many crimes internationally. For 5 years you had managed to evade detection. Unfortunately you were caught, and placed in prison.

    You made friends with your guards. You convinced them you were reformed.

    One year later, you managed to escape, while on a toilet break. You had used the excuse you wanted to visit the loo. And took that chance to escape. Circumventing your guards, any CCTVs, and perimeter fences of your jail.

    There is a massive manhunt out for you now in the country.

    You were previously described as "ruthless, an escape artist."

    Your only routes out are to one of two other countries, where you have sympathisers. To stay within the country would mean certain death.

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    Questions:

    1) What type of personality are you?

    2) How did you manage to escape? Planned, or on the spur?

    3) With help, or without? (Would it have been possible to escape alone?)

    4) How would you escape out of the country, given the tight security?
    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
    Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
    Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
    Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
    Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

    --T.S Eliot, The Wasteland

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfinchilde View Post
    Mind game. Elfie wants to play.

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    Suppose you are a top criminal wanted globally. Third in the hierarchy in your crime cartel. Having masterminded many crimes internationally. For 5 years you had managed to evade detection. Unfortunately you were caught, and placed in prison.

    You made friends with your guards. You convinced them you were reformed.

    One year later, you managed to escape, while on a toilet break. You had used the excuse you wanted to visit the loo. And took that chance to escape. Circumventing your guards, any CCTVs, and perimeter fences of your jail.

    There is a massive manhunt out for you now in the country.

    You were previously described as "ruthless, an escape artist."

    Your only routes out are to one of two other countries, where you have sympathisers. To stay within the country would mean certain death.]
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    Questions:

    1) What type of personality are you?

    INTJ/INFJ/INTP/ENTJ/ENFJ - my camouflage usually reflects the observer.

    2) How did you manage to escape? Planned, or on the spur?

    Well, I enjoy careful execution of detail, but I have to reconcile the likelihood that spontaneity would probably be the scent of the hour.

    3) With help, or without? (Would it have been possible to escape alone?)

    The initial stages would likely reside on an internal watch, but later events (those dealing with the length and quality of my escape) would likely rely on others.

    4) How would you escape out of the country, given the tight security?

    Security is as tight as the template for which it is designed. Realize the template and you've a gameplan for success.

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    Fun fun... it is important to note that this mouse can't do any of the following. But hey she can pretend that she can.

    1) What type of personality are you? ENTP

    2) How did you manage to escape? Planned, or on the spur? No mouse escapes from high security prison without planning. Take the time to map out possible route of escape and hidey holes. In the end, it ended up being easier to escape on transit.

    3) With help, or without? (Would it have been possible to escape alone?)
    Under constant high security alone? Mouse is not that foolish. Afterall you only get one attempt. It is possible, but lady luck will not be in your favor.

    4) How would you escape out of the country, given the tight security?
    They're looking for mouse... so be not mouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    Fun fun... it is important to note that this mouse can't do any of the following. But hey she can pretend that she can.
    LOL. yes mousie, that's the whole idea, to pretend. Ludere. To play. Elfie wants to play!

    Think! To think is to play.

    other answers?

    Open to discussion, too. Or if more information is needed.
    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
    Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
    Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
    Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
    Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

    --T.S Eliot, The Wasteland

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfinchilde View Post
    Mind game. Elfie wants to play.

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    Suppose you are a top criminal wanted globally. Third in the hierarchy in your crime cartel. Having masterminded many crimes internationally. For 5 years you had managed to evade detection. Unfortunately you were caught, and placed in prison.

    You made friends with your guards. You convinced them you were reformed.

    One year later, you managed to escape, while on a toilet break. You had used the excuse you wanted to visit the loo. And took that chance to escape. Circumventing your guards, any CCTVs, and perimeter fences of your jail.

    There is a massive manhunt out for you now in the country.

    You were previously described as "ruthless, an escape artist."

    Your only routes out are to one of two other countries, where you have sympathisers. To stay within the country would mean certain death.

    -------------------------

    Questions:

    1) What type of personality are you?

    2) How did you manage to escape? Planned, or on the spur?

    3) With help, or without? (Would it have been possible to escape alone?)

    4) How would you escape out of the country, given the tight security?
    I'm not that great at these kind of games, but my impression is that P types are much better at the type of behavior you described, than J types. They seem to be able to be flexible and play the cards they have in their hand rather than waiting for the "right or perfect" hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfinchilde View Post
    ...
    To think is to play.
    ...
    You have just divulged volumes to me!

    It's totally off topic and has more to do with understanding myself better, than anything else.

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    Questions:

    1) What type of personality are you? INTJ

    2) How did you manage to escape? Planned, or on the spur? 2 years in the planning.

    3) With help, or without? (Would it have been possible to escape alone?)Definitely help and escaping alone imo would result in failure. Must have right people in place for a successful getaway.

    4) How would you escape out of the country, given the tight security? Complete makeover (possibly altered gender) with new identity paperwork. If you have enough money you can certainly buy a new identity!

    Cool thread. Reminds me of the Shawshank Redemption and I believe that Andy Dufresne was an INTJ.
    Time is a delicate mistress.

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    Questions:

    1) What type of personality are you?
    Either INTP or INTJ (I seemingly use Ni and Ti equally well)

    2) How did you manage to escape? Planned, or on the spur? My escape would have been planned ahead of time in meticulous detail, taking into consideration scores of possibilities regarding what could go wrong, and planning accordingly, thus remaining very flexible.

    3) With help, or without? (Would it have been possible to escape alone?)

    Without. Other people are too unreliable to be trusted.

    4) How would you escape out of the country, given the tight security? [/QUOTE] First, I would completely change my appearance and identity. Then, I would remain in utter seclusion for a while. Finally, I would swiftly get out of the country as any non-criminal would (taking into consideration that my identity has been changed), yet with an added sense of vigilance and caution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    I'm not that great at these kind of games, but my impression is that P types are much better at the type of behavior you described, than J types. They seem to be able to be flexible and play the cards they have in their hand rather than waiting for the "right or perfect" hand.
    aw. c'mon INTJmom. considering that quite a lot of the responses suggested INTJ.....

    it's fun. getting into the minds of others. no right or wrong answer. i'm collecting data. so i do need more answers.

    thanks to the rest for answering!

    let's wait on....

    Point to add: Consider the shadow. Held in prison for one year, on the run for the 5 years before that. Wouldn't one's shadow appear?

    PS: pls feel free to add on/debate other responses as well.
    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
    Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
    Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
    Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
    Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

    --T.S Eliot, The Wasteland

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    The art of shadow is in confusion. Divide and conquer. Always do the unexpected. For a shadow to show its shadow is death to the shadow. You cannot afford to let anything show through... not even a shadow. A good shadow is a excellent actor. Shadow mouse do not look like a mouse. Actually it would be easier to be not mouse while in prison. That way mouse can be more like mouse while on the run.

    Edit: This reminds me of the anime "Mouse"... it's a horribly perverted series though... makes mousie laugh.

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