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    I know when I recorded that video a long time ago, I kept looking off to my left, and I notice I do this when I speak. They say this means you are using your right brain. That confused me because I've always considered myself fairly logical and good at math, etc. But if this is where Ni is, and if it means more of an artistic type thinking, then that would explain it. I do get Aha moments a lot, when I'm at an impasse, or when I see an impasse approaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    Left:

    numerical computation (exact calculation, numerical comparison, estimation)
    left hemisphere only: direct fact retrieval
    language: grammar/vocabulary, literal
    Logical
    Sequential
    Rational
    Analytical
    Objective
    Looks at parts

    This sounds pretty much like Ti, right? So according to this...wouldn't some INTPs be left brain dominant? And what about INFJs and ENFJs ?
    Oh well...this is confusing.


    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...vity-test.html
    i was reading that it's because Ti takes a holistic approach, as apposed to Te, therefore making it a right brain function.

    p. 287: "As a right-brain function, Introverted Thinking is not conceptual and linear [contra Extraverted Thinking]. It's body-based and wholistic. It operates by way of visual, tactile, or spatial cues, inclining us to reason experientially rather than analytically."

    p. 288: "The right brain, with its all-at-once approach to life, doesn't require exact predictability before it takes action. Its decisions are based on probabilities, and it leaves room for the random and the unexpected."
    http://greenlightwiki.com/lenore-exe...erted_Thinking
    p. 229: "Introverted Intuitions are not really ideas. They're like trains at the edge of articulated knowledge. You can't claim them or advocate them. You put on a hat, grab hold of a boxcar door, and see where they go."

    p. 153: "Introverted Intuition suggests that absolute meaning is an illusion--the result of having incomplete information."
    p. 234: "For INJs, truth isn't about logic. Truth is a frame of reference, a way of organizing information, which serves one set of needs or another."
    http://greenlightwiki.com/lenore-exe...rted_Intuition

    and worded this way... Ni does sound more left brained.
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    Ni, by all accounts, is left-brained. it works with language. it's tagged by word meanings (wernicke) that help create conceptual clusters. it's basically an auto-association network mediated by Je organization and articulation, that potentializes specific forms and shapes, organizing connections to quickly and efficiently metabolise what is needed, and densely tagged with language for easy accessibility and order of operations regrouping.

    it's skill of insight might have to do with conceptual blending. taking the exteriorily embodied signs inward and then synthesizing new meanings and new forms not as the exterior world and its meanings but within the private symbology of an interior, introverted framework/thinking space. Ni, apart from the powerful relationships with the semantic center, is basically a gestalt pattern finder. we are like biochemists of meaning, and we can synthesize new compounds and new symbols that help us interpolate new possibilities, new ways of seeing, etc, at the level of the language-culture we have already internalized.

    Ne, by contrast, does this in the world by merging with subjective positions and imagining what is possible from that subjective, experiential, temporally present and spatially constructed space. it gathers information, builds a kind of virtual environment of meaning, and then may or may not have a weird tesla coil kind of flash that locates the first position in teh story. the story, aided by the pragmatic reasoning of Ji, begins.

    j types work primarily with teh cultural operating system, whereas p types work primarily with the experiential possibilties within the world (including the cultural operating system) as it is currently constructed. eg apple = p = user experience.

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    Many INFJs scored right brain dom in the test....

    You are right about Ti.

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    I've seen other serious theorists hypothesize that Te, Ti, Se and Si are left-brained, while Ne, Ni, Fe and Fi are right-brained.

    I tend to believe these theorists over Lenore.

    To say Ni is left-brained seems ridiculous to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I've seen others serious theorists hypothesize that Te, Ti, Se and Si are left-brained, while Ne, Ni, Fe and Fi are right-brained.

    I tend to believe these theorists over Lenore.

    To say Ni is left-brained seems ridiculous to me.
    then what makes Ni types judgers, in your opinion?

    also, in what way would one consider Se as a left brained function?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    then what makes Ni types judgers, in your opinion?
    Te and Fe.

    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    i, in no way, could see Se as a judging function. that makes absolutely no sense.
    That's cuz it's not; it's a perceiving function.

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    sorry, had to edit what i meant.
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    so, according to that theory, everyone would be broken down more evenly on the left and right brained spectrum, however it would be a matter of which is first in our functions?

    say, for me as an ISFP--right brained due to Fi. but for an ESFP--left brained to to leading Se?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    sorry, had to edit what i meant.
    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    also, in what way would one consider Se as a left brained function?
    Well, let's see what guesswho listed as left-brained traits:

    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho
    numerical computation (exact calculation, numerical comparison, estimation)
    left hemisphere only: direct fact retrieval
    language: grammar/vocabulary, literal
    Logical
    Sequential
    Rational
    Analytical
    Objective
    Looks at parts
    If you ask me, the two functions that description best matches are S and T.

    Which would make the two functions that best match the right brain as N and F.

    Now, ask yourself this: how many people on here have said that it's hard to distinguish between intuition and feeling?

    And who are known as the "realists" of the MBTI types? (hint: thinking sensors)

    So, according to the breakdown I gave:

    • Those with two left-brained functions as their first two functions would be the STs (ESTJ, ISTJ, ESTP, ISTP).

    • Those with one left-brained function and one right-brained function as their first two functions would be the NTs (ENTJ, INTJ, ENTP, INTP) and SFs (ESFJ, ISFJ, ESFP, ISFP).

    • Those with two right-brained functions as their first two functions would be the NFs (ENFJ, INFJ, ENFP, INFP).

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