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    I love how this kid was laughing at the cult in the beginning and still eventually succumbed to the pressure to conform.

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    Doubtful. I actually enjoy making people challenge their ideas for its own sake.
    Surgeons replace one of your neurons with a microchip that duplicates its input-output functions. You feel and behave exactly as before. Then they replace a second one, and a third one, and so on, until more and more of your brain becomes silicon. Since each microchip does exactly what the neuron did, your behavior and memory never change. Do you even notice the difference? Does it feel like dying? Is some other conscious entity moving in with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMoon View Post
    Doubtful. I actually enjoy making people challenge their ideas for its own sake.
    I'll drink to that; preferably, Kool-Aid.

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    No. I already hate conformity as it is, as well as those who try too hard not to conform, so they conform to their group of non-conformists.

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    I'm notoriously resistant to this kind of thing.

    Although once in my life so far I've experienced something akin to a boss "gaslighting" me and pressurising me into just crashing and burning, they knew what they where doing and it was premeditated and I'm sure they believed the very best way of working with staff, the way they probably felt it was the best way of working with the public before they where promoted to management. It reinforced my venom for management per se. So manipulation and pressure are real.

    I think the greatest literary insight into this was from George Orwell, 1984 is one of the most honest no BS books about the individual confronting authoritarianism, you will eventually break, everyone breaks, you will acknowledge that two plus two equals five with the right context or circumstances.

    However the joke is ultimately on Big Brother and this something that most managers, authorities or overlords dont really appreciate, the sort of society which is littered with broken individuals and can only generate broken individuals will be a broken down one, in 1984 the hallmarks are a complete abscence of quality control among produce or decency between family members.

    A lot of managers are content with that, they'll consider the bending of others to their will to be an achievement and a show of managerial competence, that's God damned piss poor practice but its also reflected in a lot of popular culture, philosophy, social theory and psychology and has been since the consolidation of modern capitalist economies.

    It gave me a lot of cause for reflection, given that I'm serious about legitimate and illegit authorities or the exercise of authority and have thought a lot about it, its one of the pivot points of my considerations of reform, revolution, social change and what's desirable politically and socially.

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    What if you're really terrible at visual-spatial tests?

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    You: Can't you morons see, it's obviously 3!
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    No, I hate Kool-Aid. I don't care what you say or offer me, I will never drink Kool-Aid.

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    I hate Kool-Aid too. Never even liked it when I was a kid. And yes, I mean that both metaphorically and literally.
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    Oh yeah, I would never do that just like everyone above, it's always some other person that would do that! Remember, all the French served in the Resistance.


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    I like to think I wouldn't, but there's a good chance I would...
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