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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    You missed the point. All types can have all levels.
    I think you missed MY point.

    You say all types can have levels (which I agree with).

    I'm saying the system described here actually inherently favors certain types, regardless of what you'd like to say it does. The system seems biased.

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    What does emotional maturity have to do with being able to lead? I know leaders that are level 2's.. and I do not like to lead.. at least not from the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I don't identify with any of them, and I wouldn't want to be the level 6 described there. Being a leader is not a priority of mine, I aim for freedom.
    I agree.

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    On average I'd say I'm a four and good days maybe 5 but mostly likely 4.5 on bad days a 3

    But I kept reading this thread as "Mother's Levels of Emotional Maturity" and could not find the connection between mom's and this . I think about the 5th time looking at this thread I realized it said Morler's.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    But I kept reading this thread as "Mother's Levels of Emotional Maturity" and could not find the connection between mom's and this . I think about the 5th time looking at this thread I realized it said Morler's.
    Lol, same!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sassafrassquatch View Post
    I'd say I'm 3.5ish.
    Then you should think of what "responsibility" and "integrity" really mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucrativeSid View Post
    I think I seem like a six on a great day, a five on an average day, and a four on a bad day.
    Then you're likely to be Level-5.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    What does emotional maturity have to do with being able to lead? I know leaders that are level 2's.. and I do not like to lead.. at least not from the front.
    They may have destructive behaviour, except if interest is strong. Think of Hitler.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I'm saying the system described here actually inherently favors certain types, regardless of what you'd like to say it does. The system seems biased.
    You're right, because some types are "early" for maturity on some fields and "late" for others. If you read the .PDF file wholely, you'll understand.

    Descriptions are approximate. They aren't really in favor of certain types. It's pretty much like Spiral Dynamics' Levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Dana
    What does emotional maturity have to do with being able to lead? I know leaders that are level 2's.. and I do not like to lead.. at least not from the front.
    They may have destructive behaviour, except if interest is strong. Think of Hitler.
    I think 'Leader' refers to someone people look up to.. and not someone power-hungry (boss/dictator/etc). That would make sense.

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    I'm going with 4. Unless I'm on INTJ Central. Then I"m more of a 3 because I am encountering a lot of ostentatious people. Let's just call me "Kiddo 3.5".
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sassafrassquatch View Post
    I'd say I'm 3.5ish.
    Then you should think of what "responsibility" and "integrity" really mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    I think 'Leader' refers to someone people look up to.. and not someone power-hungry (boss/dictator/etc). That would make sense.
    The "leading" thing includes leading oneself
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