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    Lightbulb The Virgin Mary and the Golden-Hearted Prostitute

    Pornography is now available to everyone for free over the internet all over the world.

    So pornography is now the brothel-without-walls.

    So we are now all able to look into the heart of a brothel. And what do we see?

    We see almost exclusively women mimicking arousal, in order to arouse the man.

    And also we see that women are paid to do things that wives don't like to do.

    So the women in brothels are seen by men as golden-hearted prostitutes.

    And men reach out to the golden-hearted prostitutes with their bodies, their emotions and their money.

    For the golden-hearted prostitute is an idealisation of their abusive mother.

    But unable to face that their physical and emotional survival was dependent on an abusive mother, the abused child idealises their mother.

    Idealisation is a psychological defence mechanism to defend against the unbearable feeling of complete helplessness of the abused child.

    And this idealisation is so common it is projected onto the Mother of God, the Virgin Mary and onto the idealised golden-hearted prostitute.

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    What about the promiscuous JHWH and the golden-hearted callboy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Pornography is now available to everyone for free over the internet all over the world.

    So pornography is now the brothel-without-walls.

    So we are now all able to look into the heart of a brothel. And what do we see?

    We see almost exclusively women mimicking arousal, in order to arouse the man.

    And also we see that women are paid to do things that wives don't like to do.

    So the women in brothels are seen by men as golden-hearted prostitutes.

    And men reach out to the golden-hearted prostitutes with their bodies, their emotions and their money.

    For the golden-hearted prostitute is an idealisation of their abusive mother.

    But unable to face that their physical and emotional survival was dependent on an abusive mother, the abused child idealises their mother.

    Idealisation is a psychological defence mechanism to defend against the unbearable feeling of complete helplessness of the abused child.

    And this idealisation is so common it is projected onto the Mother of God, the Virgin Mary and onto the idealised golden-hearted prostitute.
    Please explain the bolded part for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    Please explain the bolded part for me...
    Real prostitutes hate their johns, while the idealised prostitute, the golden-hearted prostitute, love their johns.

    And in the same way, the abusive mother hates their child, while the idealised mother loves their child.

    The john needs to hide the fact that his prostitute hates him. And he hides this fact behind an idealised image of the golden-hearted prostitute.

    And in the same way, the child needs to hide the fact that his abusive mother hates him, and hides this fact behind the idealised image of the mother, such as the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, who loves us all.

    The child needs to repress their knowledge of the hatred of the abusive mother in order to physically and psychically survive. Just as the john needs to repress his knowledge of the hatred of the prostitute in order to find sexual release.

    In both cases the real is hidden behind the ideal.

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    This makes sense. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Real prostitutes hate their johns, while the idealised prostitute, the golden-hearted prostitute, love their johns.

    And in the same way, the abusive mother hates their child, while the idealised mother loves their child.

    The john needs to hide the fact that his prostitute hates him. And he hides this fact behind an idealised image of the golden-hearted prostitute.

    And in the same way, the child needs to hide the fact that his abusive mother hates him, and hides this fact behind the idealised image of the mother, such as the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, who loves us all.

    The child needs to repress their knowledge of the hatred of the abusive mother in order to physically and psychically survive. Just as the john needs to repress his knowledge of the hatred of the prostitute in order to find sexual release.

    In both cases the real is hidden behind the ideal.
    Or maybe these men only love women who hate them.

    My mom even made an observation once, that the men who love you most are the ones that you don't like at first. I hope it's just a stereotype, but all of this implies that there's something rather sick in the basic male psychology that always wants women who are unattainable in some way.

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    Oh and P.S. Victor all of this reeks of you hating women, AGAIN. Men see prostitutes because they had abusive mothers. Right. And Syliva Plath killed herself in order to destroy Ted Hughes.

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    There is some truth to reality being hidden in order to see the ideal, but being a mother is truly the toughest job in the world. And thankless.
    I don't believe that most women are exclusively one thing: either the abuser or the abused.

    I think both men and women are guilty of idolatry, and all the porn that comes along with it. Men have their narrow view of the ever willing woman and women have their fantasy of the one-dimensional, eternally devoted romantic comedy lead. It's a hard pill to swallow when faced with the true multifaceted nature of a real person.

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