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    Don't ask introverts why they're not contributing in meetings. If you're holding a brainstorming session, let the introvert prepare, or encourage him to follow up with his contributions afterward.
    This is irritating. Most often, meetings are announced in advance with an agenda or at minimum, a reason is given for the meeting. It's not like introverts can't source information in advance, same as extroverts are also capable of doing. They're not incompetent.

    This article gives both introverts and extroverts a bad rap. It's not as if being one or the other is so horrific. Better yet, get to know your own personal limits for socialisation and hold true to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    I think the article tries to cover too much ground and ends up contradicting itself.

    I have that book and I don't remember it being as annoying as all that.
    I'm starting to wonder about this "slow thinking" thing though. My mind is pretty sharp. I'm usually waiting for other people to catch up.
    If it takes me a long time to think about something, it's usually because it's not very interesting to me - i.e. I can't be bothered.
    Same here, esepcially extroverts who need to talk it out for their own understanding, or feel the need to spell it out for the rest of us.

    And I'm the same with it not being interesting- I'm not interested in investing the energy to go any deeper than surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post



    This is irritating. Most often, meetings are announced in advance with an agenda or at minimum, a reason is given for the meeting. It's not like introverts can't source information in advance, same as extroverts are also capable of doing. They're not incompetent.
    You are kidding, right?

    An introvert can know what's going on the whole time and choose not to participate until you get to the good parts.

    I'd rather not rehash the obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    You are kidding, right?

    An introvert can know what's going on the whole time and choose not to participate until you get to the good parts.

    I'd rather not rehash the obvious.
    Kidding about what? I disliked the way the writer made it sound, as if introverts needed pandering. They deserve more credit than she makes it sound.

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    i can't listen to all that shit all the time, i miss most of it, i have tons of nightmares about this issue, like being with a group in a foreign country, everyone parts and i don't know where they have planned to meet again. and i don't know how to navigate alone in this country, given that i would't ask anyone for directions. but at least i can think about philosophy and stuff and now i have plenty of time for it, too. so long, fellow human race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Kidding about what? I disliked the way the writer made it sound, as if introverts needed pandering. They deserve more credit than she makes it sound.
    My bad.

    It seemed like you were saying that the way they participate is problematic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    This is irritating. Most often, meetings are announced in advance with an agenda or at minimum, a reason is given for the meeting. It's not like introverts can't source information in advance, same as extroverts are also capable of doing. They're not incompetent.
    I hate meetings. I'm quite happy to be meeting-incompetent if it means I get to not attend.
    Most of what is discussed is a waste of time (IMO) so I tend to zone out and not know what the hell is going on. I'm not an auditory learner - I find it very difficult to process and retain auditory information, esp. under pressure. I need visual input to really understand something. I don't know how common this is for other introverts but I think most of us struggle with noisy environments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    My bad.

    It seemed like you were saying that the way they participate is problematic.
    No problems. Wondered if that was your perspective so I clarified.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    I hate meetings. I'm quite happy to be meeting-incompetent if it means I get to not attend.
    Most of what is discussed is a waste of time (IMO) so I tend to zone out and not know what the hell is going on. I'm not an auditory learner - I find it very difficult to process and retain auditory information, esp. under pressure. I need visual input to really understand something. I don't know how common this is for other introverts but I think most of us struggle with noisy environments.
    Also more of a visual learner but had to learn to be an auditory one to some degree, since the job at the time, was around 80% meetings. Thought I would lose it until figuring out that body language, positioning, hard focus on speakers helped. This way, you can get a complete picture of where the speakers and the rest of the table are coming from. Then, when something didn't ring true, that's when you jump in like a sniper.

    But...the best meeting ever attended was one where they served a killer carrot muffin. It was moist, not too sweet, full of carrots, whole wheat, cinnamon and the most delicious raisins. Don't recall the subject matter of the meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Also more of a visual learner but had to learn to be an auditory one to some degree, since the job at the time, was around 80% meetings. Thought I would lose it until figuring out that body language, positioning, hard focus on speakers helped. This way, you can get a complete picture of where the speakers and the rest of the table are coming from.
    Yes, meetings are about non verbal signals. The are about status signals. They are about power struggles. There are about forming and breaking alliances. They are about office politics.

    All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players. And a meeting is our stage, and we are the men and women. All we need to do is follow the dramatic movement and before long we will be caught up in the drama.

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