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    Default The Psychology of Fashion

    Why do some people seem so invested in what others are wearing? Why must they point out and sneer at fashion "crimes"? What are some things you see as fashion crimes and why are they wrong? What compells the should and the should nots of the fashion world and the fashion police? Why is wearing the right things in the right context by the right people so important to some?

    Are the fashion police being tongue in cheek or is there something more serious to it?

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    ^ I agree with you, Brother Quinlan. Live and let live. Why be so critical of petty shite like fashion? I think its yet another way for people with inflated self importance to boost their fragile egos by denigrating others.
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    Quinlan, you are my hero. Fun topic!!! Good Ne masturbation material.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Why do some people seem so invested in what others are wearing?
    Fashion is a way people signal their status. Since people are obsessed with their status vis-a-vis others, they are naturally obsessed with interpretting someone's fashion statement and making comparisons.

    Why must they point out and sneer at fashion "crimes"?
    It's a way of ensuring that their status doesn't rise so high above theirs that it threatens their self-esteem. Protect self-esteem=#1 priority for humans.

    What are some things you see as fashion crimes and why are they wrong?
    Girlfriend where do I start! I try and keep track of what the cool kids and doing and when they're avoiding.

    What compells the should and the should nots of the fashion world and the fashion police?Why is wearing the right things in the right context by the right people so important to some? Are the fashion police being tongue in cheek or is there something more serious to it?
    Those are all the same question as above.

    Thanks!

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    - Many view fashion as an art form, and like any art form, there will be critics of what is good and what is bad. People do this with the culinary arts as well. We all know taste is subjective when it comes to food (sometimes you just don't like something), but people still rate it and come to a consensus on what is "good". For some reason (usually a wealth of knowledge and experience), certain people are regarded as having more refined palettes, and their taste tends to set these standards. This is also kind of comparable to music critics - it's just people who know a lot about that subject and are considered to have refined taste. Call it an "expertise" I suppose. Being so subjective, the standards are very much questioned and debated as with any art. For people who like fashion, it can be interesting to discuss it as music & art can be interesting to analyze.

    - In everyday life, "fashion" is more functional than anything. Outside of the obvious function to cover, provide warmth, shield from the elements, etc,
    another function clothing serves is a social adhesive. To conform within the basic standards for your culture makes people comfortable and shows the correct attitude towards whatever function/situation you are in (ie. "respectful" or "casual"). This is why "appropriateness" is rather arbitrary and why it changes over time, just like fashion changes. In short, it's symbolic of what is considered the appropriate attitude for a context and is determined by some group consensus, where once again, there are a few of those "experts" leading the way. You could say that Fe is behind these values. This is possibly why SFJ profiles say they often have non-offensive "good taste" in their attire and home decor, if not exactly adventurous or aesthetically breath-taking.

    Another function is to send & receive messages, which was touched on above regarding attitude towards a situation. People say "don't judge a book by its cover" because people DO form first impressions based on appearances. People make connections between aesthetics and non-tangible qualities. This may seem unfair, but people do it with everything - otherwise we'd never think about anything beyond its literal meaning. In the same way that we look at a painting or hear a song and a feeling is evoked from it, we can respond to the aesthetics of fashion.

    So, fashion also provides a tool for expressing yourself wordlessly. You have control over how you present yourself, and it's not too difficult to figure out the connotations of certain clothing & styles. You can use it to your advantage, almost in a manipulative manner, or you can dismiss it and deal with the "consequences"; I find people who are "dismissive" towards fashion in a sense use fashion to express their feeling about it - they purposely ignore the aesthetics of their clothing & non-literal functions to make a statement. Other times, people who ignore their appearance do so out of a lack of self-worth - to the casual observer, the two can be confused. Making an expression of any kind leaves you open to interpretation and criticism. Some people express more "articulately" with their taste than others. How serious people take these expressions may depend on how they respond viscerally to another person's style, what underlying meanings they perceive.

    As for shunning someone in everyday life because they dress "poorly" or "strangely", well, I personally agree that is ridiculous. I'm not "invested" in judging what other people wear, but I won't lie and say that I don't form some impression of a person - I have eyes and am affected by what I take in with them. I also do see the value in these Fe (& Si) standards of appropriateness & the harmony they seek to promote, but they definitely need to be shook up from time to time, and not allowed to become extremely rigid. Dress codes with specific rules annoy me a LOT. Basic concepts of what is appropriate do not.
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    Excellent post Orange!
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    Smile All is fair in love and war.

    Fashion is the uniform of women.

    So if we study the uniform, we study women.

    For when a women becomes aroused, her eyes sparkle, her cheeks blush, her lips and nipples engorge, her breasts enlarge by about twenty-five percent and her hips tilt into the presenting position.

    And fashion mimics arousal. Makeup and lipstick mimic sparkling eyes, blushing cheeks and engorged lips. And the brassiere mimics the increase in breast size. And high heel shoes tilt the hips into the presenting position.

    Mimicry is normal in the animal kingdom, as many animals engage in mimicry to catch a mate. And when a women mimics arousal, she causes arousal in the male, who starts to think, not with his head, but with his gonads. But only mimicking arousal, the woman is able to think clearly and in the best interests of herself and her children. At this point the male is caught and lays his resources at her feet, in order to take her from mimicked arousal to genuine arousal.

    And women of course adopt the uniform of fashion to give deniability to their mimicry. I mean if everyone is doing it, who can blame me. Don't be silly, it's just fashion.

    But in fact women put on the uniform of fashion to engage in the battle of the sexes.

    For all is fair in love and war.

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    fashion is obnoxious and i love it.

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    I believe the evolutionary psychologists would rightfully try to stake a claim on this one.

    it has to do with the social reasons for why we monitor other human beings. in pro social mammals, it becomes of essential importance what the social order of the day is doing. This makes sense not only tribally (even in social rings of Bonobos, for biology example), but politically as many important outcomes come from political developments around us. What is the emperor of rome dressed like today? Would be an important question at key moments in that countries past, wouldnt you say so? Think of this behaviorally impacting people evolutionarily in all times of politics past - those who knew the emperor, or the barbarian warlord staff manager, was gonna go nuts had an advantage over those who thought everything was hunky dory.


    so, logically, why not examine a persons fashion in order to infer or intuit some mental status to the person? that's basically what we're doing.... and we ALL do it. we all infer some mental status to the people around us, by verbage use and by clothing use.


    there, ne'd that in ..... 7 mins. do i win teh prize, edahn?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    I believe the evolutionary psychologists would rightfully try to stake a claim on this one.

    it has to do with the social reasons for why we monitor other human beings. in pro social mammals, it becomes of essential importance what the social order of the day is doing. This makes sense not only tribally (even in social rings of Bonobos, for biology example), but politically as many important outcomes come from political developments around us. What is the emperor of rome dressed like today? Would be an important question at key moments in that countries past, wouldnt you say so? Think of this behaviorally impacting people evolutionarily in all times of politics past - those who knew the emperor, or the barbarian warlord staff manager, was gonna go nuts had an advantage over those who thought everything was hunky dory.


    so, logically, why not examine a persons fashion in order to infer or intuit some mental status to the person? that's basically what we're doing.... and we ALL do it. we all infer some mental status to the people around us, by verbage use and by clothing use.


    there, ne'd that in ..... 7 mins. do i win teh prize, edahn?!
    Sure, second place, since I Ne'ed the exact same thing 5 posts earlier in 3 minutes.

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