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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonkavision View Post
    In case you missed it or thought you were seeing things, Morgan Le Fay ACTUALLY SAID:
    Yeah, about that whole Fe being the basis for lying, wtf. I think lying is probably a survival skill, and I don't mean that socially. I think Te can give plenty motivation for lying as a means to an end: I want money, I want this person to sleep with me, I want this person to leave me alone, I want to take over the world...and if lying is more strategically efficient, then Te could be the basis.

    In fact, I'm sure if we really reflected upon it, we could come up with a bunch of "function lies" that don't involve Fe or Te.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    In a way Ti being compared to a maze is ironic. Seeing as the function is used half of the time to form logical frame works.
    Yeah, but when its too heavily relied upon it becomes a maze.

    It makes sense to the person trapped in it, and one can rail against people for not understanding it's logic, but it really is a form of autism, unfortunately.
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    I'm thinking now that Te and Fe are the two common, or most read about forms of lying. The motivations ring throughout societies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonkavision View Post
    Yeah, but when its too heavily relied upon it becomes a maze.
    Calling it a maze implies it's convoluted.

    Dividing a category into two subcategories, then dividing those subcategories into two again is not convoluted. It's absurdly easy to follow.

    If you can't point out a logical consequence of my view that is wrong, then you aren't really saying anything more than "lalalalalalala i cant hear you!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonkavision View Post
    Yeah, but when its too heavily relied upon it becomes a maze.

    It makes sense to the person trapped in it, and one can rail against people for not understanding it's logic, but it really is a form of autism, unfortunately.
    True. (Ha!). Now you just have to reason out when you 'rely upon it' too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonkavision View Post
    It makes sense to the person trapped in it, and one can rail against people for not understanding it's logic, but it really is a form of autism, unfortunately.
    This is just insulting.

    What the hell is your problem?

    If you don't even attempt to try to understand something, calling them autistic because you don't get it right away just makes you an asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post

    It's simpler than yours and accounts for more than yours can, so by occam's razor, mine is better.
    When you realize the utter lunacy (and childishness) of statements like this, and how little it actually matters in the real world, you will find it easier to relate to other human beings.

    I really feel sorry for you. Sincerely.

    Again, good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonkavision View Post
    When you realize the utter lunacy (and childishness) of statements like this, and how little it actually matters in the real world, you will find it easier to relate to other human beings.

    I really feel sorry for you. Sincerely.

    Again, good luck.
    Living life without occam's razor must be hilariously inefficient. I'd love to watch that.

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    I do have to agree with Evan. I would like to understand why his posts are utter lunacy. It's simply trying to grasp a system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonkavision View Post
    When you realize the utter lunacy (and childishness) of statements like this, and how little it actually matters in the real world, you will find it easier to relate to other human beings.

    I really feel sorry for you. Sincerely.

    Again, good luck.
    Saying really brilliant things as simply and in as few words as possible is pretty cool.

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