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    What do you say, would some type be more prone to have the flow experience than some other type?

    I have a thought that a flow would be more important to people with strong preference to Ne. Any comments?

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    i have no way of knowing how others experience it but i do all the time. i call it being in the zone too totally zoomed in and focused but it's effortless...like surfing.
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    I have felt that way in sports, running, art, design, sometimes with work tasks or like writing an essay, and sometimes with things like yardwork or housework. It's not a super common experience, though.

    I can't imagine how it would be type-related though...
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    I'll bet my bottom dollar that some types are more interested in it than others. I am really interested in flow, the concept fascinates me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcea rosea View Post
    What do you say, would some type be more prone to have the flow experience than some other type?

    I have a thought that a flow would be more important to people with strong preference to Ne. Any comments?
    I think all types can experience this at any given time. But as Csíkszentmihályi say some types will probably experience it more often.

    If you look at his graph I would experience control and relaxation more times than flow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i have no way of knowing how others experience it but i do all the time. i call it being in the zone too totally zoomed in and focused but it's effortless...like surfing.
    Sure thats not what Csíkszentmihályi means as control and relaxation?

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    i'm not sure...no...what do you mean? i'm not understanding what he means by flow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i'm not sure...no...what do you mean? i'm not understanding what he means by flow?
    Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity.

    Part of his theory is that you can enter flow by following the conditions.

    1. One must be involved in an activity with a clear set of goals. This adds direction and structure to the task.[8]
    2. One must have a good balance between the perceived challenges of the task at hand and his or her own perceived skills. One must have confidence that he or she is capable to do the task at hand.[8]
    3. The task at hand must have clear and immediate feedback. This helps the person negotiate any changing demands and allows him or her to adjust his or her performance to maintain the flow state.[8]




    You enter flow when the challenge and your skill level meet in the flow area.

    Colloquial terms for this or similar mental states include: to be on the ball, in the zone, in the groove, or keeping your head in the game.


    But it isn't necessarily a feeling of effortless. More defined by a loss of self and a clean feedback loop. You are one with the environment.

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    yeah...that's how i understand it too...was just asking slowriot what he meant...he seemed to be asking me if i meant something else...but...no.
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    I can slip into the flow naturally when my mind and body are in tune and I have adequate energy. it really is like surfing like lady x said.

    when I'm tired or upset I can be extremely apathetic. that's kind of the opposite, apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    yeah...that's how i understand it too...was just asking slowriot what he meant...he seemed to be asking me if i meant something else...but...no.
    I think he was saying that the challenge is low in the situation you described. So it would be relaxation.

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