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    Quote Originally Posted by gps View Post
    To my mind the signature preference among the MBTI relating to `flow' is the only one not attributable to Jung: the J/P preference, which David Keirsey has said has more to do with closure VS open-endedness than either `judging' or `perceiving' per se.

    I'm inclined to believe that those who prefer P to J would be more inclined to experience flow, but I suspect that J types can if they feel well-bounded between supposed beginnings and supposed dead-lines for any of their paint-by-numbers regions of time on their calenders, itineraries, or daily schedules.
    J-ness could still entail Fi though, right (even though I'm a P type)?

    Because that's all I'm joking about (being emo). I don't get situated in actions/experiences so easily. I'm not an extrovert (or rather, so into the P function that I forget everything else).

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    That's a great diagram, wolfy.

    I've understood flow as being a state that's possible whenever the challenge is slightly above the current skill level. It makes sense, though, that we already have to possess SOME skill first.

    I can't think of any way to connect this to specific types, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    i'm too emo for the flow

    i kind of prefer it that way.

    but when i'm there, it's all good. i just.. usually don't care anymore.
    That's what apathy is. it's opposite flow...but sometimes can be similar.
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    It's not apathy necessarily. I'm slightly tongue in cheek there with the emo thing. It can be apathy. Usually it's something more serious, something I find worth paying attention to more. In the same way perhaps an INTP might get real stuck in their thoughts/Ti-like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    right...like when you have something really hard to do and as a p you procrastinate...it's overwhelming...you don't know how to get started you don't want to do it...and then the moment strikes...it's got to be done and you do it...and you're fast and efficient...it just flows...like a writer who's blocked for days and sits down to write a novel.

    Lady X I concede, you make sense in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcea rosea View Post
    What do you say, would some type be more prone to have the flow experience than some other type?

    I have a thought that a flow would be more important to people with strong preference to Ne. Any comments?
    I've always associated flow with being totally in the present, one with the task on hand. I associate it more with Se.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paradigm-shift View Post
    I've always associated flow with being totally in the present, one with the task on hand. I associate it more with Ne.
    If it's only about being totally in the present, I'd give the edge to Se.

    I think any person that's working in their element of strength (or enjoyment) can achieve a state of flow.

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    Surfing is effortless?!

    I think of flow as being completely in the moment, I'd say it's like a pure Se state where you drop every other function and just focus on responding environment. It's almost unconcious.

    But that's probably just my biased Se take on it.
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    I would imagine achieving a state of flow would involve use of all your 4 concious cognitive functions in harmony, most likely starting by having your dominant and auxiliary combo highly stimulated.

    I think any type would be capable of achieving it, but it would depend on what kind of activity they are involved in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    I can't think of any way to connect this to specific types, though.













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