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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkadelic View Post
    When you're around racists, you need to simplify your vocabulary, speak loud, clearly, and very very slowly. It's important you use simple Kindergarten words (Most Racists didn't make it past Kindergarten). Also, don't make jokes, use sarcasm, or make any references or allusions to outside things because they won't catch it and it might anger them.
    Actually racists can be fairly well educated, just like people who commit domestic violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyJaye View Post
    Wise instruction!

    I would also add that you might want to bring a folding chair to sit in, and possibly some snacks for yourself, as the discourse with said racist could take a looooooong time.
    Yeah, and a dictionary to prove to them that most of the words they use aren't real.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkadelic View Post
    Yeah, and a dictionary to prove to them that most of the words they use aren't real.

    I've found it handy to get a small tape recorder, and record the many simple phrases I know I'll have to repeat over and over. Quite the time saver.

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    Racist people make me feel right at home.

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    I thought a lot about this topic and responses. I think with me its particular situation, which i didnt state, it's more family/friends-issue than only rasistic.
    I live in apartment building, 7 floors, about 150 people in building. I live here from when i was 3 years old. When I was kid I was basically friends with most of my neighbors, and was attached to many, the same with my extended family. Most of those people are racists. I wasnt aware of that for like first 13 years of my life, so I liked them. I didnt have a clue what's happening. I still get surprised when I hear something like that about someone who I liked, when I hear the most friendly of my neighbors that I spent half of my childhood at his house, was walking around with gun and searching for Serbs to kill them. Seems like most people arent really normal. That's disturbing.
    And this is why I am confused how to act, because I grew up now, and I cant go to what was before, but I cant totally ignore people I had connection with. I need to resolve this soon because it's underlying issue for many years. I find it hard to dismiss people as idiots.

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    What can you do?

    It's a hard problem at it's core. I think most people go through many stages where they realize that people (and themselves) can be wonderful in some regards and horrible in others. To some extent, every action or belief you hold can and will effect the other areas of your life. But there are people everywhere who are deeply flawed but yet are good at something: the great school teacher who is an alcoholic with DUIs, the affable friend who is full of jealousy in love, or in your case, the neighbor who is great to get along with - unless you're Serbian.

    So you are faced with a choice: do you shut these people out of your life based on a principle? You can if you want. But you're connected with them. So it's an uneasy compromise. You'll have to accept the good with the bad. You can attempt to reform them, which I already stated will be a difficult process. But if they are really worth that much for you, then you'll do it. And you will face probable failure, unless you have a particularly well developed social skill set.

    Otherwise, you can do your best to try to bring out the good and ignore the bad. Of course, you'll be letting the principle slip away here, but it will probably work, at least for a little while. People do this all the time. They turn an eye to the bad. But then you'll grow tired of compromising your beliefs.

    I recommend you don't turn a blind eye to it. Don't ignore it. Instead, understand it. Pay attention. What is it, really, that is causing them to believe this? Break down the puzzle and figure it out. After you've figured it out, then you move from there.

    From there, you decide if you want to keep them as a friend or not. In my opinion, simply because you had (or have) an attachment to someone doesn't mean they should continue to stay in your life. Maybe you'll decide to try and reform them first, and if you succeed, you kept a friend. Otherwise, you'll either end up awkwardly dissatisfied by staying with them or lonely by yourself for the time being.*


    *This is all my opinion. The above is a rather dichotomous way of looking at things. You could say that it is a false dichotomy. Indeed, I'm quite sure there are other ways of viewing this situation and there are a variety of possible end scenarios. That said, I present this argument to try to distill the viewpoints into a simple format which emphasizes both choice and personal responsibility.

    My end goal was to try and spur action, not rumination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Actually racists can be fairly well educated, just like people who commit domestic violence.
    So true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp View Post
    So true.
    of course. most of politicians here who are now in jails in Den Haag for war crimes are highly educated doctors, lawyers.

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    @OP: It depends how many of them there are.

    It's hard to weed it out as well, so you don't even know who is a racist sometimes. Or sometimes it comes out in awkward situations where you don't want to be too unpleasant. It could be a friend even. I'll still get confrontational with them, but I'm not going to be too much of that if there's kids around or something.

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