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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I'm always either being chased (usually by Hitler) or just observing... that may be saying something about my passivity in real life

    I usually tend to be rather passive and avoidant unless I feel that my action is necissary and then I unleash it full force... otherwise I"m content just enjoying myself- and I've been told many times by people I know who write that I just wouldn't be a beleivable main character... a much better sidekick- even in a story of my life
    hrm... do you have any particular dream that stuck with you as being interesting and worth sharing? being passive may or may not be a bad thing for you, just as being a spectator in your dreams may or may not be a bad thing. it may be the other content of your dreams that are more important. what is it you are watching? do any of these dreams attempt to invite you in to join first hand?

    EDIT: i didn't even hit on the being chased thing.

    i'll repost what i found for juice.
    "To dream that you are being chased, signifies that you are avoiding a situation that you do not think is conquerable. It is a metaphor for some form of insecurity."

    and also:
    "To see Hitler in your dream, symbolizes oppression, fear, manipulation of power, and absolute control. The dream could be brought about by a situation where you are feeling helpless or by someone who is overly controlling or is making you feel less than human."
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    flying dreams are a common one for me as well. and same with me, flying would always be the ticker, letting me know, "hey! you're dreaming right now!" it's always great when that happens, because then you start to gain a little bit of control over your dream. i'm not an "expert" lucid dreamer, but it's something i'd like to work on. it usually happens purely accidentally for me.
    I find this this interesting, because I've never actively tried to lucid dream. I've known of the concept for years, and always thought "that would be cool to do,"

    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    even the most commonplace of objects or seemingly normal things that occur in dreams still carry some symbolic weight. i gave a couple of examples in my original post, about the meanings of transportation and roads. but also, houses, floors, cats, doors... they all carry some meaningful weight. none of these objects are wild or strange in nature, but interpreted with whatever else may be occurring in your dream (as well as your waking life), they could hold a new world of meaning.
    Everything is always familiar to me. It's always places I know.

    There's rarely any stand-out imagery. It's always about the people, the characters, their emotions and the situations that they're in. If I had to specify one thing that stands out, it's just that - the people and their feelings. Does dreaming about people and feelings imply anything?

    I'm a writer, but strangely I've never written a story based on any of these dreams. They've never felt concrete and complete enough to, and they don't come often enough, which again is something I don't understand.

    Isn't dreaming that little supposed to be a bad sign? *laughs*

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    hrm... do you have any particular dream that stuck with you as being interesting and worth sharing? being passive may or may not be a bad thing for you, just as being a spectator in your dreams may or may not be a bad thing. it may be the other content of your dreams that are more important. what is it you are watching? do any of these dreams attempt to invite you in to join first hand?

    EDIT: i didn't even hit on the being chased thing.

    i'll repost what i found for juice.
    "To dream that you are being chased, signifies that you are avoiding a situation that you do not think is conquerable. It is a metaphor for some form of insecurity."

    and also:
    "To see Hitler in your dream, symbolizes oppression, fear, manipulation of power, and absolute control. The dream could be brought about by a situation where you are feeling helpless or by someone who is overly controlling or is making you feel less than human."
    Last night I dreamed that I watched a single mistake turn a family into zombies, who went on living like humans and were unaware that they were zombies and falling apart... I just watched, not even existing... I woke up disturbed that I just sat and watched

    I have a feeling that the two of us dream of being chased for the same reason though the hitler thing makes sense because the social system has always made me feel trapped
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    Quote Originally Posted by Words of Ivory View Post
    I find this this interesting, because I've never actively tried to lucid dream. I've known of the concept for years, and always thought "that would be cool to do,"


    Everything is always familiar to me. It's always places I know.

    There's rarely any stand-out imagery. It's always about the people, the characters, their emotions and the situations that they're in. If anything stands, it's just that. The people and their feelings. Does dreaming about people and feelings imply anything?

    I'm a writer, but strangely I've never written a story based on any of these dreams. They've never felt concrete and complete enough to, and they don't come often enough, which again is something I don't understand.

    Isn't dreaming that little supposed to be a bad sign? *laughs*
    Like I said, you dream... you just don't recall them in the morning. But you could easily research, google search tips that can help you with that. One tip I've read about, is setting your alarm clock to go off one hour before you need to wake up, and then a second alarm to go off later to actually wake you up. That's typically prime time for recalling dreams. Wake up, go back to sleep, and then re-wake up. And maybe leave yourself a note by your bedside to not just hop out of bed, but to ponder on your dreams for a moment. Sometimes we're too easily distracted, first thing in the morning, by what we need to set off to do, rather than rejogging our brain about what we just dreamed. And when we set off like that, it's too easy to forget what we just dreamed, even within a few minutes of being awake.

    If you'd like to private message me one of your dreams, I'm trying to work on dream analysis. Not for any particular reason, except just for my own curiosity. But I'd be interested to hear one that you do recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    "To dream that you have been killed, suggests that your actions are disconnected from your emotions and conscience. The dream refers to drastic changes that you are trying to make. There is a characteristic that you want to get rid of or a habit that you want to end within yourself. Killing represents the killing off of the old parts and old habits.
    Spooky… The bold pretty much sums it up. I’m purposely detaching myself from my emotions and conscience in order to keep my sanity because I know I’m doing badly right now. Then on the flipside of that I’m also trying to change some of my old habits, but I seem to be fighting a losing battle. The killing off of old habits is probably more it though. Every day I struggle with the temptation of the streets and I’m not used to resisting. I used to just give into every whim I had, so these past couple of years have been the first time I’ve ever tried to resist crime. I’m trying to kill that side of me, but it doesn’t want to go away. So the dream metaphor makes a lot of sense.

    "To dream that you have been stabbed, signifies your struggle with power. You are experiencing feelings of inadequacy and defensiveness."
    Shameful to admit, but yes.

    "To see a killer in your dream, suggests that an essential aspect of your emotions have been cut off. You feel that you are losing your identity and your individuality. Alternatively, this dream may represent purification and the healing process. You are standing up for yourself and putting a dramatic end to something."
    Pretty much connects with the top part of wanting to put a dramatic end to my old lifestyle.

    "To dream that you kill someone, indicates that you are on the verge of losing your temper and self-control. Consider the person you have killed and ask yourself if you feel any rage towards him or her in your waking life. Your dream may be expressing some hidden anger. Alternatively, you may be trying to kill an aspect of yourself that is represented by the person killed. Identify the characteristics of this person and ask yourself which of these qualities you are trying to put an end to."


    "To dream that you are being chased, signifies that you are avoiding a situation that you do not think is conquerable. It is a metaphor for some form of insecurity."
    Indeed, I am avoiding a huge undertaking I have been given… I’m basically stalling as much as I can because I don’t wanna deal with it. *sigh*

    "To dream that you are in a fight, indicates inner turmoil. Some aspect of yourself is in conflict with another aspect of yourself. Perhaps an unresolved or unacknowledged part is fighting for its right to be heard. It may also parallel a fight or struggle that you are going through in your waking life. If you are fighting to the death, then it refers to your refusal to acknowledge some waking conflict or inner turmoil. You are unwilling to change your old attitudes and habits."
    Story of my life…everyday seems to be a battle of good and evil within me… and the thing that sucks is that there is a part of me clinging on to my negative lifestyle that just doesn’t want to let go… Hence the unwillingness to change my old habits metaphor above. I want to change, but I don’t think my want is strong enough right now. My conscience is trying to “fight for the right to be heard” but I’m ignoring it.

    There obviously has to be some truth to these dream interpretations otherwise I would be dreaming about puppies and kittens or something.

    So now that we assessed my dreams, what happens now Doc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    There obviously has to be some truth to these dream interpretations otherwise I would be dreaming about puppies and kittens or something.

    So now that we assessed my dreams, what happens now Doc?
    Hahahaha. I have lots of dreams about kittens, believe it or not. However, they aren't typically pleasant. I recall one strange one where I gouged a kitten's eye out. Also, I recall another one where I was juggling a ton of cats at one time and trying to keep them all safe, but was being pulled into a vortex at the same time. My puppy and kitten dreams are not happy go lucky!

    Perhaps you could ask your dreams to tell you... or you could try bringing these two halves together. Find some middle ground... However... I'm no psychologist or doctor. I say, do what you think your dreams are trying to tell you to do... but that's me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    i was not aware that carl jung used psychedelics. awesome! haha.

    what do you mean by this statement: "those speculations make perfect sense if you understand how psychedelics effect your consciousness and unconsciousness."?? i read your link, and it said that trace amounts of dmt are released during birth and during dream time. i don't think it makes it any less real, symbolic, or meaningful.
    this as the speculations:

    It may play a role in mediating the visual effects of natural dreaming, and also near-death experiences, religious visions and other mystical states.[38] A biochemical mechanism for this was proposed by the medical researcher J. C. Callaway, who suggested in 1988 that DMT might be connected with visual dream phenomena, where brain DMT levels are periodically elevated to induce visual dreaming and possibly other natural states of mind.
    and psychedelics kinda take your unconsciousness and mix it with consciousness. in mbti terms, they put your unconscious functions into conscious use. they also dig all sorts of stuff(the good and the bad) from the unconscious, this is the reason why they can trigger mental illness that havent bloomed yet, schizophrenia for example or can cause panic attacks if something bad tries to get to the surface from unconscious. this is why they work so well in theraphy, especially with patients with suppressed memories that cause their unconscious to behave in unhealthy ways. the same kind of mixing of consciousness and unconsciousness happens when you dream, since your dreams are coming from your unconsciousness
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    this as the speculations:



    and psychedelics kinda take your unconsciousness and mix it with consciousness. in mbti terms, they put your unconscious functions into conscious use. they also dig all sorts of stuff(the good and the bad) from the unconscious, this is the reason why they can trigger mental illness that havent bloomed yet, schizophrenia for example or can cause panic attacks if something bad tries to get to the surface from unconscious. this is why they work so well in theraphy, especially with patients with suppressed memories that cause their unconscious to behave in unhealthy ways. the same kind of mixing of consciousness and unconsciousness happens when you dream, since your dreams are coming from your unconsciousness
    which is exactly why i don't play with those things anymore!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Last night I dreamed that I watched a single mistake turn a family into zombies, who went on living like humans and were unaware that they were zombies and falling apart... I just watched, not even existing... I woke up disturbed that I just sat and watched

    I have a feeling that the two of us dream of being chased for the same reason though the hitler thing makes sense because the social system has always made me feel trapped
    To see or dream that you are a zombie, suggests that you are physically and/or emotionally detached from people and situations that are currently surrounding you. You are feeling out of touch. Alternatively, a zombie means that you are feeling dead inside. You are just going through the motions of daily living.

    To dream that you are attacked by zombies, indicate that you are feeling overwhelmed by forces beyond your control. You are under tremendous stress in your waking life. Alternatively, the dream represents your fears of being helpless and overpowered.



    I think there is definitely a theme going on here. Passivity, oppression, helplessness... You'll have to piece it together for yourself what it means for you, but I hope you found it helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    which is exactly why i don't play with those things anymore!
    i hope you figured out that they dont work out well for you before something really bad happened
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