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    I should have been aware long ago when my mother's favorite warning to me before I headed out to play tended to be "don't do anything stupid just because you think it looks fun!" that I'm probably not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree! It probably doesn't help that nearly being smashed by a semi yesterday was "thrilling" to me or that I spend most of my weekends in nice weather free climbing (rock climbing without the use of ropes and all of that other stuff!)

    I remember studying Risk Attitudes in one of my psych classes a few years ago, and that some people just have a mindset that leads them to enjoy dangerous behavior while other people don't

    is this in any way related to the MBTI and personality type? or is it something that a person develops all on their own independant of other personality factors?
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    I think people can take risks for different reasons.

    Some like the rush of doing them and living in the moment. Others like the feeling of success when they make it through. Others are challenging their own limits; others want to prove themselves "better" than everyone else.

    Gatsby might have more data at hand. Risk taking and the need for stimulation has been studied and tested for. I personally would expect to see a lot of SP types involved in "living in the moment" risk. ESxPs really seem to get a rush out of it.
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    Risky behavior annoys the shit out of me. I'm not sure why yet.

    It has been linked to MBTI type in a way, because all the SP types reportedly enjoy taking risks. There is also mention of ENTJ's enjoying risk (in Socionics), but it was mostly due to weak Se (again in Socionics), causing them to not fully comprehend the gravity of a given situation (think of a young naive child after watching a Bruce Lee move-- I CAN BREAK THIS BOARD WITH MY HAND-- the child doesn't understand the reality. Same thing with ENTJs in some cases).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Gatsby might have more data at hand. Risk taking and the need for stimulation has been studied and tested for. I personally would expect to see a lot of SP types involved in "living in the moment" risk. ESxPs really seem to get a rush out of it.
    The first thing to remember is that risk can be measured in different ways... It's true that SPs seem to gravitate towards riskier sports, however this doesn't actually make SPs "risk" takers. It's very much confirmation bias because we see the crazy risk takers a lot more.

    For the most part, Risk takers in MBTI are E--Ps.

    So, I'll generalise the following loosely - but keep in mind it is loose. In order of importance; E>I, P>J, N>S, F>T.

    However, the following disclaimers are important. Age, sex and experience matters a lot. There are also different types of risk - the one we see (risk-takers) are really 'sensation seekers', which makes E--P very dominant. However, the risk bearing types (this is notable in finance and business) aren't the same, although the same core personality traits are related.

    So, if I had to say what 'types' are the greatest risk takers;

    ENxP, ESxP would be at the top (and for all intents and purposes, the F/T area is difficult because 'negative' emotions play a gigantic role in risk measurement and women tend to have more negative emotions yet better risk measurement wiring...).

    This mirrors what I've seen in the financial world as well.

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    I am perfectly happy to accept risk, but not for its own sake. The risk itself is not a source of pleasure for me (or it may be, but I won't take a risk just for the thrill of the risk). It can, however, be a price I'm perfectly happy to pay in pursuit of other, more worthy pleasures.

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    Well, if I think it's extremely unlikely I'll die taking said risk, then I'll take it. This would be why I enjoy climbing, and have no problem rappelling off the edge of a cliff. [And I personally don't think either are very risky, so I don't really view them as risks; I just happen to enjoy both, and other people may view them as more risky than I do.]

    But whatever -- climbing without ropes?? Silly girl. Bouldering is one thing...actually climbing up pretty high without equipment..that's another.

    Although I suppose it depends on the rocks. There have been a few instances in my life where I've done some bouldering where it would have been perhaps *wiser* to be attached to a rope, but I had confidence in my ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascademn View Post
    Well, if I think it's extremely unlikely I'll die taking said risk, then I'll take it. This would be why I enjoy climbing, and have no problem rappelling off the edge of a cliff. [And I personally don't think either are very risky, so I don't really view them as risks; I just happen to enjoy both, and other people may view them as more risky than I do.]

    But whatever -- climbing without ropes?? Silly girl. Bouldering is one thing...actually climbing up pretty high without equipment..that's another.

    Although I suppose it depends on the rocks. There have been a few instances in my life where I've done some bouldering where it would have been perhaps *wiser* to be attached to a rope, but I had confidence in my ability.
    Yeah. I don't consider my rappelling 100+ down a waterfall/white water rafting with a helmet/etc. risks. They are adrenaline rushes, generally. But they're safe. I don't take stupid risks.
    (Climbing without ropes?! Whatever!! That's a stupid risk!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    (Climbing without ropes?! Whatever!! That's a stupid risk!)
    Yah! I'd never do that... or go hiking up in the mountains with my skiis, just to jump off cliffs... or over frozen lakes... and never closed runs. I'd certainly never go climbing without ropes... in the dark... late at night... I'd certainly never sneak out at night and take a kyak out for a swing on the lake.

    And I'd never of done any of those things before I was 14, either.

    No sireee.

    (When it comes to actual risk taking, I was... quite the child. Although my version of 'without ropes' wasn't a full fledge mountain, probably only 2x-3x the size of the indoor ones.)

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    you guys are making me feel like I'm crazy it's not like I usually go somewhere where there aren't other people or where the rocks are slippery- I just really love the challenge! It's one of the few times in my life that I'm fully concentrating on something!
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    I'm not much of a risk taker. I like climbing and hiking and all that fun stuff, but I won't go somewhere where I have a chance of getting seriously hurt. I'm also afraid of heights so that helps keep me grounded.

    I've climbed little rocks without ropes but nothing big enough to injure me if I were to fall.

    As far as MBTI goes, I'd imagine ESxPs, closely followed by ENxPs, are the biggest risktakers. I know this ESFP who always has so many crazy stories to tell me.

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