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    i have guessed peoples signs a lot actually...i know stuff.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
    -Jim Morrison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    One astronomer not believing in astrology doesn't mean no astronomer believes in astrology.

    Pretty... simple... logic... there.
    The most logical people I have met are those suffering from a paranoid delusion.

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    So you've been there?

    And then I assume you figure Joseph Campbell and Huston Smith to not be "real" academics because they spent so much time there?

    Nor Abraham Maslow? Nor BF Skinner? Nor Susan Sontag? Nor Aldoux Huxley? Nor Moshe Feldenkrais? Nor Alan Watts? Nor Ray Bradubury? Nor... (the list goes on and on)

    Esalen Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Victor, based off onemoretime's comment, I thought you might actually be intelligent, but I'm starting to learn that one should take whatever onemoretime believes, and believe the opposite, and one can then be assured that he is very, very close to the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Ummm, first girl commented to second girl about a guy who's been in the store one time, and when the guy came back three months later, the second girl just happened to know it was him?

    Really?

    That's the leg you're trying to stand on?

    Interesting... that really says a lot about your openness to new possibilities/ideas...
    Oooh a Libra INTJ lecturing a Libra ENFP on openness to new possibilities/ideas. I like it

    I'm open to everything, I just like to feel convinced. But it's also a matter of being practical. Will knowledge of astrology make me live a happier life? Scratch that...knowledge is good even when it sometimes makes us less happy. But do and should I trust any one individual when it comes to astrology or do I need to become an astrologer myself to get something out of it? Do different astrologers even arrive to the same conclusions?



    As for the second part of your comment, I'm so glad you asked:
    Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View - by Richard Tarnas

    Download the real player audio file (second link) under "Interviews"
    Thanks. I'll listen to it when I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I remember Esalen where an ambulance would pull up once a week, every week, and everyone would troop down to have their shots for sexually transmitted diseases.

    Esalen is not an accredited University and so anyone who would call themselves, "Director of Research at Esalen Institute, Big Sur, CA", is simply pretentious.

    Quite like astrology itself.
    Btw, it's pretty funny hearing someone who just actually had this exchange call other people pretentious:

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    No astronomer believes in astrology.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    No wonder onemoretime thinks you're the smartest poster on here.

    You share the same characteristic: you say completely false statements while thinking you're absolutely right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    An astronomer is only a phone call away.

    If you wish, you can pick up the phone and ring an Observatory and ask to speak to an astronomer.

    And then you can ask them the truth value of astrology.

    My guess is that the answer will be zero.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    One astronomer not believing in astrology doesn't mean no astronomer believes in astrology.

    Pretty... simple... logic... there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Oooh a Libra INTJ lecturing a Libra ENFP on openness to new possibilities/ideas. I like it
    Wait...

    Who's the Libra ENFP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    I'm open to everything, I just like to feel convinced. But it's also a matter of being practical. Will knowledge of astrology make me live a happier life? Scratch that...knowledge is good even when it sometimes makes us less happy. But do and should I trust any one individual when it comes to astrology or do I need to become an astrologer myself to get something out of it? Do different astrologers even arrive to the same conclusions?
    As with all things, you should engage it with a critical mind, never allowing yourself to be duped, always taking it for what it's worth, but also being open to any truth that might actually be contained in it.

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    Thanks. I'll listen to it when I can.
    Cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Victor, based off onemoretime's comment, I thought you might actually be intelligent, but I'm starting to learn that one should take whatever onemoretime believes, and believe the opposite, and one can then be assured that he is very, very close to the truth.
    The attraction of Esalen was sex in a puritanical society.

    The attraction of Esalen was certainly not the intellect. And the proof of the pudding is in the eating, for Esalen produced no works of the intellect.

    However Esalen did specialise in producing sexually transmitted diseases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The most logical people I have met are those suffering from a paranoid delusion.
    Oh, you also share onemoretime's characteristic of bringing up completely irrelevant "counterarguments" to arguments that have absolutely decimated your positions...?

    How interesting...

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    What is this STD nonsense about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The attraction of Esalen was sex in a puritanical society.

    The attraction of Esalen was certainly not the intellect. And the proof of the pudding is in the eating, for Esalen produced no works of the intellect.

    However Esalen did specialise in producing sexually transmitted diseases.
    So you've read everything by every author/thinker who's ever spent time studying at Esalen, and deemed them to be "not works of the intellect"?

    Have you read either one of these books?

    Passion of the Western Mind

    Cosmos and Psyche

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