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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I'm not sure whether I've even heard the sound of an open mind on this thread, aside maybe from ragashree's (but I didn't really read his/her posts to carefully, so...)
    You said you liked the point about astrological predictions working for 1 in 12 people...?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I'm still waiting for Victor to give me evidence that Jung sexually abused his patients and started a cult.
    Victor likes to make unsupported claims of truth for which he has no evidence.

    He then squirms like a worm when called out on it.

    I'm not sure whether he likes the latter part...

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    Okay, evidence is nice and all for empiricism, but to demand evidence that astrology is false is a bit rich. I am banging Meaghan Fox right now. Prove that I am not. This seems to be astrology's grand argument.: Prove otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Victor likes to make unsupported claims of truth for which he has no evidence.
    I make no claims for truth, rather I express my opinion.

    And I am happy to listen to yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    In a normal conversation you would just express your opinion, you would not demand evidence.

    Demanding evidence seems to me to be somewhat peremptory.
    What constitutes "normal" is highly ambiguous. Some of us may think that liking green smoothies, dancing, ideas and poetry might be abnormal. So it is only fitting that we abandon any notion of normality instead of using it as a failsafe when we are lacking in evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Astrology is falsifiable.

    And it has been falsified.
    I count two truth claims there.

    Anybody else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    Okay, evidence is nice and all for empiricism, but to demand evidence that astrology is false is a bit rich. I am banging Meaghan Fox right now. Prove that I am not. This seems to be astrology's grand argument.: Prove otherwise.
    The point is that, if you make the claims that it's falsifiable and has been falsified, then you should provide your proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater Typhoon View Post
    What constitutes "normal" is highly ambiguous. Some of us may think that liking green smoothies, dancing, ideas and poetry might be abnormal. So it is only fitting that we abandon any notion of normality instead of using it as a failsafe when we are lacking in evidence.
    Good Libra.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    The point is that, if you make the claims that it's falsifiable and has been falsified, then you should provide your proof.
    It's falsifiable but has not been definitively falsified because no one cares enough about it to fund the studies.


    But here is one study suggesting that it doesn't do anything:

    A double-blind test of astrology

    You can't read it without paying for a subscription, but Wikipedia references this study by saying:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
    Studies have repeatedly failed to demonstrate statistically significant relationships between astrological predictions and operationally-defined outcomes.
    Now, I know Wikipedia on its doesn't count as a reliable source, but here they've cited an actual academic journal study (and it seems quite unlikely that they'd be lying about its content.)
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    I took an astrology class a couple months ago supposedly just to learn the vocabulary and basic concepts for another class I was taking and, much to my surprise, I now find parts of astrology compelling and useful. I was startled by the accuracy of the planet descriptors and where they were in my natal chart. One example was a conjunction of two of my natal planets indicative of higher math and science ability (I have a Ph.D. in Chemical Engineering). Could this alignment be chance? Of course, but there was enough applicable detail to make it an interesting and helpful exploration. I find the houses and signs less useful and standard newspaper horoscopes not useful at all.

    For what it's worth, my astrology instructor doesn't advocate using astrology for predictive purposes.

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