astrology is as accurate as the enneagram. If you claim you don't believe in bullshit, don't believe in enneagram either.
Take it or leave it seriously.
Can someone explain this to me? Why is the Enneagram so awful? It doesn't tell you who you are based on bullshit charts that have no bearing on anything, it's just like other personality systems. Why do people pick on the Enneagram so much?
A question for believers: What would happen to your personality, or your daily life, if you were born on another planet? Or born in space? You wouldn't be influenced by the same astrological threshold as you would be on the earth. Then, all of your charts and predictions would be paltry - not that they aren't already.
Well, I'm not a believer, but I'll play devil's advocate.
If you were born on another planet: I would assume that if you were born on another planet, this planet would be part of its own solar system (assuming it's not another planet in ours), which would have its own planetary bodies, sun(s), constellations, etc. Depending on the history and level of development of the society in which you grew up, your ancestors may have already created/discovered the various planetary bodies, sun(s), constellations, etc. surrounding your home planet and created/discovered synchronicities between those bodies and qualities/characteristics/energies/archetypes on your home planet.
Accordingly, your planet of birth would have its own astrology, in which your existence would partake.
As for being born in space: that's a good question. Much of astrology does seem to depend on actually being on the surface of a planet (for example, one's rising sign is the sign coming over the horizon at the exact time of your birth from the view of the place where you are born), but perhaps the rules that create one's natal chart can be bent for the case of those who are not actually on a planet...
I mean, if you're willing to assume that we live in an inherently meaningful universe where qualities/characteristics/energies/archetypes are in sync with the planets, sun, constellations, etc., well then, you're probably willing to assume that the same ordering mechanism that brings about that synchronicity is complex and powerful enough to work in some way, shape or form if someone were to be born in space.
Perhaps depending on the place where they're at, they'll receive bits and pieces of the archetypal energies from whatever system(s) they happen to have view of, be close to, or be native to...
Originally Posted by Tater Typhoon
@ Zarathustra: Let's suppose you were in that same shop and your brought your entire High School Cohort with you, most of whom were born under the same constellation. Do you really think they'd all be behaving the same way? That they would all be identifiable as the same archetype?
Shop? Did you mean ship?
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Several people have asked me my views about Astrology, and my answer is always the same. Although I am myself a spiritual person who is (for the most part) open to possibilities and fascinated by symbolic personality theories, Astrology is not something I truly believe in, nor do I view it as a viable personality theory.
First, it has not in any way been scientifically proven that the positions of the planets at a person’s time of birth has any effect on a person’s personality. Second, I mostly treat Astrology as entertainment and read my horoscopes occasionally for fun, rather than taking the personality aspect of the twelve signs seriously. Third, if the Astrological birth charts were in fact widely accepted and used today, it would throw just about everybody I know into chaos. I mean, looking at my own birth chart, I am a Capricorn Sun Sign with Moon in Libra, Ascendant in Saggitarius & Mars in Aries (to name but four parts), and one can just look at my personality types I have listed in my signature and see how contradictory that is. My mother, who is an INTP, is a Scorpio (an emotionally expressive sign)! My stepfather Stephen, who is very Introverted and treats work as his God, is the hedonistic sign of Gemini! Yeah, Stephen breaks the rules all the time. Right. Short and simple, it is very unlikely that Astrology is actually an accurate theory of personality. Enneagram is a viable personality theory. Astrology is not.
Or, if it is somehow accurate, the system has a number of imprecisions in it that haven’t been accounted for for the purposes of using it in today’s society. Therefore, even if astrology was scientifically & psychologically accurate I would not believe in it. I like to believe in theories that are actually plausible, you see.