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    Are intelligent women more likely to be depressed?
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    This article is from UK-based research, which I think is an important point. I live in the UK. Britain is a society with a huge drinking problem and while there is a strong perception that it’s mostly working-class louts and sluts going on binges on the weekend (and every weeknight, in some cases), apparently the research reveals that the middle class on average consumes even more because they put away a bottle of wine per person each weeknight and often have at least a bit of a binge on the weekends too.

    I haven’t got a clue what drinking patterns are like in the US these days – I know most of you are American. I’m actually Canadian and I haven’t much of a clue about drinking patterns in Canada either as I have lived abroad for many years now.

    It is worth noting, however, that although the English do have a big drinking problem (so do the Irish, though not necessarily more so than the English, contrary to popular perception – I also lived in Ireland for a few years), the biggest offenders that I’ve met here by far have been Aussies, Kiwis, and Scandinavians, who seem to believe that a social life is absolutely worthless if it doesn’t involve getting completely and totally hammered.

    Where I grew up on the west coast of Canada, it was much more of a coffee culture. People went to cafes much more than to pubs. Over here, people of various nationalities often think you’re odd if you don’t want to drink, or only want one or two, in a night of socializing. But I have a sneaking suspicion that people all over the western world are drinking more than they used to – even those who are pretty moderate drinkers. I think it’s a (rather unhealthy) way of coping with stress.
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    ^Good post. Thanks for that perspective.

    I think locale is a huge factor. I have degrees and my husband has a degree, and we will occasionally enjoy a drink or two on a week night, and will imbibe quite a bit more if we hang out with friends, which tends to occur about once per month. But here in western Montana, it's also a bit more of a health-conscious coffee/tea culture. In my area, most singles work all week and don't tend to go out (i.e. drink much) until the weekends, and married couples tend to be pretty sober for the most part, especially those with kids.
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    Eh, I think really smart/educated/ambitious women end up dealing with more social stress and difficulty fitting in within more conservative circles. It makes a lot of sense to me that they would (need to) drink more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Educational Attainment != Intelligence

    More like financial opportunity.

    Therefore, there is no correlation between intelligence and drinking (which I do not partake in and is perhaps why I felt compelled to chime in).
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    Isn't that just related to stress? With similar reasons to why women smoke or have higher rates of heart disease now?

    The study tests not just on intelligence but degree attainment which to me indicates more your ambitiousness rather than intelligence.

    Ambitious people work hard to attain, they get stressed, they drink, smoke, or do other substances. Particularly if they network informally through bars and parties where drinking is common.

    I wouldn't be surprised though if these women also did yoga or ran a lot - which are 'healthy' ways to off gas stress.
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    Well I suppose more intelligent women would tend to have well-paying jobs, and stock up with nice wines.

    What's ironic is that alcohol consumption makes you act like more of an idiot than usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by article
    Cleverest women are the heaviest drinkers

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    Do drinking women smart more?

    Do smarting women fart more?

    Someone should assess the average IQ of Irish and German women. We should also conduct the studies wearing beer goggles, because of potential flying debris. But then we might skew the studies because pregnant women don't usually drink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    Where I grew up on the west coast of Canada, it was much more of a coffee culture. People went to cafes much more than to pubs. Over here, people of various nationalities often think you’re odd if you don’t want to drink, or only want one or two, in a night of socializing. But I have a sneaking suspicion that people all over the western world are drinking more than they used to – even those who are pretty moderate drinkers. I think it’s a (rather unhealthy) way of coping with stress.
    I think its more of a social lubricant or disinhibitor for a hell of a lot of people too, I was going to say about a time I had a friend visit from abroad who found the relatively early closing time week nights of cafes and coffee houses surprising but coffee wouldnt meet the need of most of the people who need a few drinks to give them confidence to start conversations.

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