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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I think a lot of what you're witnessing must be from a specific culture, since you won't verify where you're from - but it sounds like a less educated, working class mentality which I've witnessed more amongst redneck types in the South, or some Latino sub-groups in Las Vegas or California.
    Assuming his location entry is correct, he's from the maritimes (eastern Canadian provinces).

    There's definitely a specific culture there. I don't know much about it (never been there) but from what I hear it's typically less-educated and under-employed, certainly "rough around the edges". Very irish/scottish, especially in some parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    Assuming his location entry is correct, he's from the maritimes (eastern Canadian provinces).

    There's definitely a specific culture there. I don't know much about it (never been there) but from what I hear it's typically less-educated and under-employed, certainly "rough around the edges". Very irish/scottish, especially in some parts.
    I see. I did not realize the maritimes was a real place, I just associate it with sea or naval life.

    What you describe makes sense, exactly what you've described here is what the white, working class Southern U.S. culture is based in. I'm Scots-Irish on one side myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I see. I did not realize the maritimes was a real place, I just associate it with sea or naval life.

    What you describe makes sense, exactly what you've described here is what the white, working class Southern U.S. culture is based in. I'm Scots-Irish on one side myself.
    Yes, Randomnity described us pretty well. A lot of people in the Maritimes are very friendly and hardworking, but I stand out as pretty freakish to some of the members of my community. What's worse, I am Acadien, and some people don't look too kindly upon us "Frogs". In small, backwards communities, fitting in is important. Even among my family, I am an oddity of sorts. My father is a tradesman with a sixth grade education and I feel bad because he simply doesn't understand why I'm at university and not working with him right now. He thinks he did something wrong and I must be mad at him. Since I started this thread, I have transferred to a small liberal arts University in the capital, which is much better.

    Anyway, I think the white working class South comparison is pretty fair, except there are more fishermen here.

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    Love ya, d00d... but this made me laugh:

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    I think that's why females like us. It's 'cause we're understanding, smart, and most of us are absolute stunners in bed and looks and sex. Who wants a beer gut, when you can get an almighty hunk
    but... uh... aren't you gay?
    So you'd never BE in bed with me?
    (aside from statuatory charges, of course)

    lol.
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    i must live in a very interesting town... i'm in a small, rural southern town where there are lots of rednecks and good ole southern boys. however, it's also a college town and there's quite an eclectic community that exists here on top of those other aspects. i've even met several country gay boys.

    this must be some rare spectacle of crossroads where gays, nerds, professors and intellectual students, metrosexuals, hipsters, hippies, banjo player folk musicians, rednecks and hillbilly's can all live in unison and peace. ...for the most part. there was one incident during the summer, where a gay man wound up beat up and in a coma. however, story goes, it was actually the gay man that was out of line that particular night and not the men that put him there. apparently he kept harassing some straight (maybe homophobic) country boys. however, i wasn't there and only know the story by ear.

    other than this one event though, this community seems to have found some level of peace amongst the differences in those respects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    First of all, sorry to hear about this man, are you pressing charges against the assholes?

    This could be interesting to anyone who thinks they may have me pigeon holed on the topic of homosexuality. I dont support or encourage the spread of homosexuality, its not something which I regard as understandable or healthy either. I've major doubts about the bio-psychological explanations for its origins, whether that's the body chemistry of mothers (which I think is actually a male chauvinist explanation, think about it) or anything else.

    On the other hand I do not hold at all with the use of words associated with homosexuality being used in a menacing or prejorative sense, I'm also not alright with the demonisation of effeminate, effette or similar traits, behaviour or appearences which may be associated in some minds with homosexuality.

    Personally I dont like the whole metrosexual thing, I dont like some of the attention grabbing garb and actions of some of the homosexual fraternity either but so what, I dont like cricket either, it shouldnt earn anyone attention, abuse or a roughing up.

    I've been told by others that I can be very macho or ultra manned, I dont think so personally, not even when I raise my voice, challenge behaviour I dont like (I really dont like bullies) or have to behave aggressively, I dont think of those behaviours as macho or exclusively male.

    It doesnt happen in Northern Ireland anymore that going to university draws aggrivation from others, maybe it did at a time but I doubt it, the class divisions and other divisions are more important than "college" vs. other, I think perhaps it could be to do with the privilege that is associated with "college" in the US, jealous, envy and bitterness. Then again I do know that someone in Newcastle who's a teacher and married to the sister of one of my friends was mistook for a student and assaulted by a group of guys with a bat, this was to do with his perception as a "smart ass student" but I dont know how common that is.

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    The whole sissy-boy thing makes me want to vomit, though. Men should be men. Period.
    If some aren't, maybe they should have therapy, but not violence.
    Violence is sometimes a solution, but it really isn't if you're going to reform someone who is mentally ill.

    Homosexuality is not a good thing that should be embraced by society, just dealt with on a personal basis, and perhaps with professional help.
    Just like people who want to do other really disgusting and horrible things has to keep it in their pants because it's against the law, as it still should be.

    I might sound like a conservative Christian, here, and in fact this is one of the few points where I agree with them.
    Why? Because they're somewhat right, and people just don't dare to step on anyones' toes anymore. What's next? Legalizing pedophilia? Necrophilia? Zoophilia?

    This is just my opinion, and I know some people won't like it one bit, but I have a right to it and a right to express it in civil discussion.
    If this gets me an infraction, it was so worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus View Post
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    The whole sissy-boy thing makes me want to vomit, though. Men should be men. Period.
    If some aren't, maybe they should have therapy, but not violence.
    Violence is sometimes a solution, but it really isn't if you're going to reform someone who is mentally ill.

    Homosexuality is not a good thing that should be embraced by society, just dealt with on a personal basis, and perhaps with professional help.
    Just like people who want to do other really disgusting and horrible things has to keep it in their pants because it's against the law, as it still should be.

    I might sound like a conservative Christian, here, and in fact this is one of the few points where I agree with them.
    Why? Because they're somewhat right, and people just don't dare to step on anyones' toes anymore. What's next? Legalizing pedophilia? Necrophilia? Zoophilia?

    This is just my opinion, and I know some people won't like it one bit, but I have a right to it and a right to express it in civil discussion.
    If this gets me an infraction, it was so worth it.
    Sure you have a right. But your arguments/opinion....

    I agree with conservative Christians...disgusting and horrible...pedophilia, necrophilia...sissy boy, vomit, violence..mentally ill.

    Obvious trolling. Lucky for you it's generally okay to trash homosexuals. And the homosexual gets beaten up. But who knows, you may not be so lucky either. Infraction? You are not worried of being banned? Interesting. Why don't you write the same post and exchange homosexuals with women? You are already halfway there with your opening statement.

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    This is a thread about how bullies suck, especially small minded, bigoted, stereotyping ones. I don't think the op is even gay (?), he just happened to have a purse-appearing object - a perfectly normal, non-effeminate (to reasonable people) laptop bag.

    Maybe having sex with bigots ("assholephilia?") will be criminalized, that'd be kickass. Maybe, people who do really disgusting and horrible things like promoting hatred towards minorities should be sent to therapy (not paid for by the state, of course).
    -end of thread-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    This is a thread about how bullies suck, especially small minded, bigoted, stereotyping ones. I don't think the op is even gay (?), he just happened to have a purse-appearing object - a perfectly normal, non-effeminate (to reasonable people) laptop bag.

    Maybe having sex with bigots ("assholephilia?") will be criminalized, that'd be kickass. Maybe, people who do really disgusting and horrible things like promoting hatred towards minorities should be sent to therapy (not paid for by the state, of course).
    Yes...it seems like someone just bringing up homosexuality, even if it's not the point of the thread, causes people to go on anti-gay rants. I am not sure where this fear and aggression comes from (repressed femininity perhaps?), but it is not the mark of a balanced, reasonable person. Gayness wasn't the issue anyway, it was more about bigots. This makes me think a of a funny article on The Onion:

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/let...-them-o,11514/

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus View Post
    This is just my opinion, and I know some people won't like it one bit, but I have a right to it and a right to express it in civil discussion. If this gets me an infraction, it was so worth it.
    From a non-mod perspective (since that is all I'm going to comment on right now), I'm less disturbed by your views and more disturbed by the complete lack of any rational support you have offered for why you might believe and behave as you do.

    It definitely changes how I look at you and how I view your conclusions.
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